European language?

greg   Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:55 pm GMT
La population du Royaume-Uni est 60 millions d'habitants. Prévisions pour 2050 : 59 millions.

France aujourd'hui : 62,5 millions. Prévisions 2050 : 75 millions.
Adam   Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:58 pm GMT
Let's look at the stats if you include languages spoken in the EU as NON-native languages -


English - 31%
French - 12%
German - 8%
Spanish - 4%
Italian - 2%
Dutch/Swedish/Danish - 1%

And if you include the numbers of speakers both as a native language and a non-native language (which is the most accurate measurement as it includes ALL speakers of the language) -

English - 47%
Germany - 32%
French - 28%
Italian - 18%
Spanish - 15%
Dutch - 7%
Greek/Portuguese/Swedish - 3%
Danish - 2%
Finnish -1%

So English and German rule. The rest are just making up the numbers.
Sander   Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:21 pm GMT
Why did you leave out the 'just native' speakers list?

Deutsch 24%
Français 16%
English 16%
Italiano 16%
Español 11%
Nederlands 6%
Elinika 3%
Português 3%
Svenska 2%
Dansk 1%
Suomi 1%


BECAUSE THEN ENGLISH DOESN'T RULE?

You're a child Adam.
Guest   Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:59 pm GMT
<Why did you leave out the 'just native' speakers list?

Deutsch 24%
Français 16%
English 16%
Italiano 16%
Español 11%
Nederlands 6%
Elinika 3%
Português 3%
Svenska 2%
Dansk 1%
Suomi 1% >

Well people would obviously based their conclusions on size of popluation but in a world of gobalization English is the forerunner. Many Eastern european nations used to learn mainly German and/or Russian(In communist times) are moving towards English.
Catalanòfon   Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:06 pm GMT
You shouldn't include speakers of non-State languages in your "just native lists". We, the natives, are only natives in one language although we can be bilingual or, even, multi-lingual.
Sander   Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:15 pm GMT
Which language in my list is a non state language?
Guest   Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:19 pm GMT
Sander - that guy doesn't know what the hell is he talking about.

Time for you Catalanòfon to go back to the language forum and rant more about us 'evil' Germanic people.
greg   Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:25 pm GMT
Le catalan n'est — actuellement — la langue officielle d'aucun État souverain, à part Andorre.
Pete   Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:48 am GMT
If you want a European language which is spoken by a minority to become the one spoken by everyone, so no major language is favoured. Then use Basque.

EUSKAL HERRIAK ASKATASUNA!!!
Sorin   Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:45 pm GMT
hehee Let's use Romania...it has about 22 million speakers (not bad), it's a Latin language...it resembles approximately 60% of Italian (or that's what my Italian teacher used to tell me- I don't speak Italian btw). Anyways...I'd like Italian to be the European language, followed by Spanish. Pace :)
Guest   Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:58 pm GMT
why? Is basque the only minority language???

Gealic, Frisian, Sami and many more.
Guest   Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:38 pm GMT
Il devrait y avoir trois langues internationales en Europe :

- Une langue germanique pour les Européens du nord ; ce serait l'Allemand parceque c'est la langue germanique la plus parlée en Europe.

- Une langue Latine : le Français, pour les mêmes raisons.

- Une langue Slave : Le Russe pour les mêmes raisons.


L'Anglais ne devrait être utilisé que pour communiquer avec les Britaniques.
Pete   Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:44 pm GMT
I kind of understood you suggest to use:
German or germanic countries, French for latin countries, and Russian for slavic countries.

German is a wise choice since it's like the most representative. But I'm sorry I refuse to have French as a tongue for latin countries. French is the language which is the most different from Latin, I can accept Catalan, Italian or any other but not French. Maybe French sounds beautiful, but it's not the closest child to latin. I would choose Italian.
Guest   Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:36 pm GMT
<I kind of understood you suggest to use:
German or germanic countries, French for latin countries, and Russian for slavic countries. >

What an excellent idea. But there is one problem. I think the British and the Irish perfer their own group with English as their language.

But what about Non Indo European languages? - eg. Finnish? In their case we can't just shove them with the Germanic group just because they have a sweden speaking minority.

Germanic countries - German

Latin countries - French

Slavic - Russian? I'm for Polish it is currently the largest group of Slavic speakers in the EU.

The new group which consist of the English, Scottish, Welsh and the Irish should be rightfully in their own group.
Guest   Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:38 pm GMT
*Swedish