Third person of "Wanna"

Lo   Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:08 pm GMT
I have no idea what's dumb about gonna or any of those forms. Everyone uses them and I'm pretty sure we didn't come up with them, the English must have.

I don't think they're Americanisms at all. I have usual contact with Canadians and they use them and my English teacher at school is Australian and he uses all these forms constantly.

They make speech faster as far as I'm concerned.
Caspian   Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:00 am GMT
Right - so, if you're agreeing that it is fine spoken, but not written - why spell 'gonna' with an 'o'? If we're going to come up with a written form of the word, why not at least make it phonetic? 'Gunnuh' suits better, I think.
Wannabe   Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:58 pm GMT
Maybe because it looks somewhat closer, and you can see more easily how 'gonna' is a contraction of 'going to'. Just a guess.
Kendra   Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:40 pm GMT
Gunnuh...

gonna has [A, or Q in unmerged American dialects], and not [@] as the spelling ''gunna'' might indicate... In LA gonna rhymes with Donna, and not with gun-a
Caspian   Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:39 pm GMT
Yes, but LA isn't the standard for English.
Lazar   Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:43 pm GMT
"Gonna" can have [A], [Q], [O], [V] or [@] depending on the speaker and dialect.
Robin Michael   Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:50 pm GMT
English certainly is hard work!


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Seriously though, use language like this and you will be regarded as extremely NOCD!
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NOCD Not Our Class Darling

>>Seriously though, almost everyone says "wanna", at least in America.
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Californian   Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:32 pm GMT
"Gonna" does not rhyme with Donna! I've never heard an American pronounce it like that. It's pronounced "gun-na".
Californian   Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:34 pm GMT
Unless you mean Louisiana by LA and not Los Angeles.
Queen Victoria Hater   Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:23 am GMT
''Yes, but LA isn't the standard for English. ''

It is in Hollywood.
If it hadn't been for Hollywood, English wouldn't be a worldwide language at all.
Kendra   Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:33 am GMT
''GONNA ['g@n@]
There is a strong form in American English ['gQn@] or ['gAn@]''

JC Wells, Longman Pronunciation Dictionary


In the West, GONNA ['gAn@] is the tradicional strong form.

It is true that in many ['A] words, schwa [@] is becoming more fashionable in California, even when stressed:

was [wAz]---> [w@z]
everybody [evribAdi]--> [evrib@di]
what [(h)wAt]---> [(h)w@t]
gonna [gAn@] ---> ['g@na]

Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dic has [A] for gonna in the US, and it uses the Western cot/caught merged pronunciation:

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?dict=CALD&key=33732&ph=on

PS
In LA (and many other States of the South), GONNA is pronounced ['goun@], especially by African Americans.
Travis   Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:45 am GMT
That's the thing - all of those here in Wisconsin are firmly [ʌ], as in:

"was" [ˈwʌːz̥]~[ˈwʌːs]
"everybody" [ˈɜː(v)ʁiːˌb̥ʌːɾi(ː)]~[ˈɜː(v)ʁiːˌb̥ʌːi̯]
"what" [ˈwʌʔ(t)]
"gonna" [ˈg̥ʌ̃ɾ̃ə(ː)]~[ˈg̥ʌ̃ɐ̯̃]
Travis   Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:30 am GMT
That should be:

"was" [ˈwʌːz̥]~[ˈwʌːs]
"everybody" [ˈɜː(v)ʁiːˌb̥ʌːɾi(ː)]~[ˈɜː(v)ʁiːˌb̥ʌ̂ːi̯]
"what" [ˈwʌʔ(t)]
"gonna" [ˈg̥ʌ̃ɾ̃ə(ː)]~[ˈg̥ʌ̃̂ɐ̯̃]

I should also note, though, that "wanna" differs in vowel, being [ˈwɒ̃ɾ̃ə(ː)]~[ˈwɒ̃̂ɐ̯̃] here.