What about to join Portuguese and Spanish in one lenguage?
English:
As you can see i must use english to comunicate with more people than using spanish or portuguese.
I belive no latin derivated lenguage will surviver in 3 centuries because English and perhaps Chinese or Standard Arabic.
At least Portuñol (Portunhol) will have a chance if goverments began to join both lenguages now, (with ample time of course, we are talking about generations).
All lenguages evolution, why not control that evolution for generations?
What do you think about?
En español:
Como veis tengo que usar el ingles para alcanzar al mayor numero de hablantes y eso que el español esta en su nuevo siglo de oro.
Creo que no sobrevivira ningun lenguaje romance en los proximos siglos por el empuje cultural y economico del chino ingles y arabe estandard.
Ya que es imposible una union de todos los idiomas romances hacia el latin, involucion artificial, porque los descendientes del latin somos incapaces de cooperar linguisticamente entre nosotros. Por lo menos que un idioma romance sobreviva en los proximos siglos, que el latin evolucionado no se extinga.
Español americano y portugues brasileño son casi el mismo idioma, ¿porque no una union? todos los idiomas evolucionan ¿Porque no controlar esa evolucion durante unas generaciones?
¿Que pensais?
Sorry for my portuguese, i prefer not to destroy that nice lenguage
Are are insane? Spanish and Portuguese are two different languages, with different literatures, grammars and vocabulary. Brazilian POrtuguese is a sort of creole, very different in structure from American Spanish. All these thereads about this topic are really stupid. Spanish and Portuguese have been , are and will always be two separate languages.
¿Que pensais?
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What is Spanish? There are Castellano,Asturianu,Leones,Arragones,Andaluz and so on. Leones and Mirandes are transitional dialects (or languages) . All of these "languages "and Portuguese were dialects of Iberian Latin language in Middle ages.
They should make a hybrid language of French, Dutch and German and unite Germany, Austria France and the entire Low Lands. How great wouldn't that be?
The language would be largely based on Lëtzebuergesch!
It should be called Neo-Franconia and it would respect the regional Latinized Celts, the Bretons, the Saxons, the Frisians,... They should organize student exchanges throughout the whole empire and encourage mixed marriages between its people.
Charlemagne would be proud of these idealists, I can tell you that.
"Ach, my God, que je suis molto stanco i demà m'he d'aixecar dematí".
Do you like this universal language?
I doubt the French want to mix their language with German.
They should make a hybrid language of French, Dutch and German and unite Germany, Austria France and the entire Low Lands. How great wouldn't that be?
The language would be largely based on Lëtzebuergesch!
It should be called Neo-Franconia and it would respect the regional Latinized Celts, the Bretons, the Saxons, the Frisians,... They should organize student exchanges throughout the whole empire and encourage mixed marriages between its people.
Charlemagne would be proud of these idealists, I can tell you that.
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Agree only if they all speak french >:-) niark niark! (I'm joking)
Perhaps this goal is too overambitious without a Stalinist leader. Very still, a crying shame how a historic region like the Low Lands remain hopelessly divided while the rest of Europe has attained this ambitious goal long ago.
Yes, there still be little troubles with Basques, Irish, etc... but this is due to oppressive regimes of the pasts (and present in a smaller sense) and humiliation.
Guest Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:01 pm GMT
I doubt the French want to mix their language with German.
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Well, in same time, I doubt the German want to mix their language with French.
If we would ever speak French as our first language, we need intensive language courses from kindergarten, especially in the Netherlands. German intellectuals are traditionally known for their polyglottery though. I know that Germans often are to first to publicize grammar books in unusual languages like Albanian for instance (still a very mysterious language to other Europeans), but also in the more distant past like a German linguist from South Africa who studied the Bantu languages Wilhelm Bleek, or what about the German orientalists like Gerd R. Puin?
Germans are open-minded people and polyglots, this is due to the fact they had more contact with different cultures from an early date historically. I know most Germans aren't ashamed to speak German where they stand, even when abroad, but when you don't speak German yourself they don't care, as long as there's communication.
People don't give up their language, true, people won't suddenly merge with a country, also true. Very still, I admire big countries like the USA, Russia and China for the fact they for a change are able to keep their country together. We Europeans are too often divided due to mere provincialism.
People don't give up their language, true, people won't suddenly merge with a country, also true
Wasn't the EU conceived as an union of France and GErmany plus servant countries?
>>Wasn't the EU conceived as an union of Deutschland and France plus servant countries?
Very true... Spain and Portugal are servant cuntries.