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Voodoo   Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:08 pm GMT
I read this sentence and it confuses me:

"Consumption of coffee in USA totals in 4 Kg per person."

"USA totals"-what does it mean?
Thanks for explanation!
Total   Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:16 pm GMT
It means you should fuck off.
MooMoo   Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:42 pm GMT
"Consumption of coffee in USA totals in 4 Kg per person."

"Totals" in this sentence is the main verb.

The subject is "consumption of coffee in USA"
Quintus   Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:37 pm GMT
If "totals" is the main verb in that sentence (which I agree it is), then isn't the word "in" redundant ?
MooMoo   Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:01 pm GMT
《《If "totals" is the main verb in that sentence (which I agree it is), then isn't the word "in" redundant ?》》

How can it be redundant

Consumption (of coffee) (in USA) ...
Comsumption (what kind) (where) ...
MooMoo   Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:18 pm GMT
@Quintus
Oops, you mean the other "in".
I agree with you.
Total   Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:34 pm GMT
Forget the knob head verbs. You could use it in another example where if you bought something from off the internet and looked at the price it would say " Total amount due " So you pay that and no more.
Quintus   Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:29 am GMT
Yes, "Total", that use would make "total" an adjective. But your example wasn't the sentence being asked about.

I guess the verbal form "totals in" could be used by analogy with "weighs in".
Another Guest   Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:49 am GMT
The fact that "USA" is preceded by "in" (a preposition) is a big clue that "USA" goes with the prior part of the sentence, rather than being the subject of "totals". BTW, besides there being an extra "in" (I don't think that "redundant" is quite the right word; "redundant" and "extra" don't mean quite same thing), it's also more standard to say "the USA" rather than just "USA". Also, kilogram is abbreviated "kg". No capital "k".

And "weighs in" should have an "at" after it. But that analogy has problems beyond that. If you really want a preposition with "total", it should be "to".
Foxie   Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:22 am GMT
>>"Consumption of coffee in USA totals in 4 Kg per person."<<

Consumption of coffee in the USA averages 4 kg per person.

I'd leave out the second 'in' (as Quintus suggests), put a the' in front of 'USA' (as Another Guests suggests), and replace 'totals' with 'averages' because this is really an average (or use 'is'). Here's the source -- http://tinyurl.com/32o7v7q
Quintus   Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:14 am GMT
>>"redundant" and "extra" don't mean quite same thing>>

Fair enough, A. G., but I meant "redundant" only in the sense of a pleonasm or an unnecessary detail.

>>If you really want a preposition with "total", it should be "to">>

Yes, or perhaps "totals up to" - that sort of thing. However, I believe Foxie has improved upon the original.
Quintus   Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:15 am GMT
>>it's also more standard to say "the USA" rather than just "USA">>

I had assumed the OP was quoting a headline, so I thought nothing of the absence of the definite article.
Franco   Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:25 pm GMT
Shut up Quintus, I am getting sick of you now.!!
Matematik   Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:21 pm GMT
The "in" before 4 is not only redundant, it is totally wrong.

Total in the example sentence is a verb.
Franco   Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:57 pm GMT
Matematik, you know nothing so don't add to the thread ok..!!