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Northern Chinese   Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:35 am GMT
1. Scandinavian languages (except Icelandic) are much easier than German?

2. Scandinavian languages (except Icelandic) are almost as easy as Dutch?
joao   Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:17 am GMT
Scandinavian languages are the easiest among European languages. Verbs are not conjugated at all, they're much easier than English. They also have fewer tenses compared to the English language. They retain noun gender and plurals are a bit more complicated but vocabulary is much richer in English so all in all SCandinavian languages and English are equally difficult for me..
Septentrionalis   Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:50 am GMT
But be aware of the fact that Norwegian and Swedish have tonal pitch accents with two tones that create minimal pairs, e.g. /'bøner/ (bønder, farmers) and [^bøner] (bønner, beans).

This is extremely hard to get right for foreigners, but as the context usually explains the meaning, communication is still possible. (And a few archaïc dialects, like Finland-Swedish, use no tones.)

Danish has a similar phenomena, a glottal stop called stød, that functions in much the same way.
PARISIEN   Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:31 am GMT
>> 1. Scandinavian languages (except Icelandic) are much easier than German? <<

-- Absolument. Zweifellos. Otvivelaktigt.


>> 2. Scandinavian languages (except Icelandic) are almost as easy as Dutch? <<

-- Bien plus faciles que le néerlandais!
-- Erg gemakkelijker dan t'Nederlands!
-- Mycket lättare än nederlandska!
Septentrionalis   Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:34 pm GMT
I wrote:
>>[^bøner] (bønner, beans).<<
Uff da, that should be: / ̌bøner/. The symbol for the second tone is a haček.
Septentrionalis   Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:45 pm GMT
It's the third tone in the Chinese tonal system, the low falling-rising tone of 马/馬 - mǎ - "horse"
Baldewin   Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:40 pm GMT
@PARISIEN:"Erg gemakkelijker" doit être "veel gemakkelijker".

Une question: Quand un Suédois rencontre un Norvège ils parlent rarement en anglais. Est-ce aussi le cas quand un ce Suédois rencontre un Danois?
Selon moi, surtout les jeunes Scandinaves sont bien capable de se comprendre entre eux sans avoir besoin de l'anglais.
Blyad'   Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:58 pm GMT
Is it me, or at the Swedes much more artistically inclined than the rest of the Germanic people?
Franco   Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:03 pm GMT
It's you.
Septentrionalis   Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:00 pm GMT
Haha, titta bara på dom östgötska rondellhundarna!
PARISIEN   Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:10 am GMT
>> Quand un Suédois rencontre un Norvège ils parlent rarement en anglais. Est-ce aussi le cas quand un ce Suédois rencontre un Danois? <<

-- Bonne question. Entre Oslo, Göteborg, Malmö et Copenhague, les gens sont habitués aux langues des voisins et à moduler leur "skandinavisk[a]" en éliminant les mots, expressions et prononciations trop spécifiques à chaque langue de façon à garantir une parfaite intercompréhension.

A Stockholm et dans le Norrland suédois, c'est différent, le danois n'est pas familier et l'intercompréhension n'est pas excellente. J'ai déjà entendu des Suédois et Danois se parler anglais, mais je crois (j'espère !) que c'est quand même exceptionnel.
Estefania   Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:27 pm GMT
What languages do the Swedes learn at schools and know well? How good is their English, and what is the situation with German and French?

How many will an educated person speak? Is there any tendency that can provide an answer to such a question?
Svensk :)   Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:45 am GMT
Estefania Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:27 pm GMT
What languages do the Swedes learn at schools and know well? How good is their English, and what is the situation with German and French?

How many will an educated person speak? Is there any tendency that can provide an answer to such a question?



- Swedes learn English at school from 4th grade and is compulsary subject. About 89% of Swedish people speak and understand English well.
Swedish TV is very based of American and British shows. More than half of the shows are in English with Swedish subtitle.

- Starting from 6th grade, Swedish students could learn additional foreign language. German, French or Spanish. The most popular is German, close after French, and least Spanish. Some students pick extra English instead of learning a little of other foreign languages.

So, Sweden along with Netherland and rest of Scandinavia speak very good English.
But not always...   Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:24 am GMT
<<- Swedes learn English at school from 4th grade and is compulsary subject. About 89% of Swedish people speak and understand English well.
Swedish TV is very based of American and British shows. More than half of the shows are in English with Swedish subtitle.

- Starting from 6th grade, Swedish students could learn additional foreign language. German, French or Spanish. The most popular is German, close after French, and least Spanish. Some students pick extra English instead of learning a little of other foreign languages.

So, Sweden along with Netherland and rest of Scandinavia speak very good English. >>


- Swedes learn English at school from 4th grade and IT is A COMPULSORY subject. About 89% of Swedish people speak and understand English well.
Swedish TV is LARGELY based ON American and British shows. More than half of the shows are in English with Swedish subtitLES.

- Starting from 6th grade, Swedish students CAN learn additional foreign languaGES. German, French or Spanish. The most popular is German, close after THAT IS French, and THE LEAST POPULAR IS Spanish. Some students pick extra English CLASSES instead of learning a little of THE other foreign languages.

So, Sweden along with THE NetherlanDS and THE rest of Scandinavia speak very good English.