Do these rhyme for you? I have [wVIvz] and [haIvz].
"wives" and "hives"
They rhyme for me: I have ["waIvz] and ["haIvz]. But the singular form "wife" I pronounce as ["w6If].
Both of those pairs rhyme for me:
spider ["spaI4@`]
rider ["r\aI4@`]
advise [@d"vaIz]
surprise [s@"p_hr\aIz]
It seems as if you have a new phonemic split. Where are you from?
spider ["spaI4@`]
rider ["r\aI4@`]
advise [@d"vaIz]
surprise [s@"p_hr\aIz]
It seems as if you have a new phonemic split. Where are you from?
<<surprise [s@"p_hr\aIz]>>
Was that a typo, or do you really pronounce "surprise" as "suprise"?
Was that a typo, or do you really pronounce "surprise" as "suprise"?
I have:
wives ["wa:Ifs]
hives ["ha:Ifs]
spider ["sp@:I4R=:]
rider ["Ra:I4R=:]
advise (noun) [E{:d"v@Is]
advise (verb) [E{:d"va:Is]
surprise [s@"p_hr\a:Is]
wives ["wa:Ifs]
hives ["ha:Ifs]
spider ["sp@:I4R=:]
rider ["Ra:I4R=:]
advise (noun) [E{:d"v@Is]
advise (verb) [E{:d"va:Is]
surprise [s@"p_hr\a:Is]
>><<surprise [s@"p_hr\aIz]>>
Was that a typo, or do you really pronounce "surprise" as "suprise"?<<
No, this is not a typo; it is actually a very common pronunciation in North American English. The matter is that while most NAE dialects are not non-rhotic, there are still particular words in many if not most NAE dialects which have lost instances of /r/, such as "surprise", "caterpiller", and "governor".
Was that a typo, or do you really pronounce "surprise" as "suprise"?<<
No, this is not a typo; it is actually a very common pronunciation in North American English. The matter is that while most NAE dialects are not non-rhotic, there are still particular words in many if not most NAE dialects which have lost instances of /r/, such as "surprise", "caterpiller", and "governor".
<<Was that a typo, or do you really pronounce "surprise" as "suprise"?>>
No, that's really how I pronounce "surprise". I'm rhotic, but I have a pattern of dissimilative r-reduction in the following words:
surprise [s@"p_hr\aIz]
governor ["gVvn=@`]
southerner ["sUDn=@`] (and "northerner", etc)
No, that's really how I pronounce "surprise". I'm rhotic, but I have a pattern of dissimilative r-reduction in the following words:
surprise [s@"p_hr\aIz]
governor ["gVvn=@`]
southerner ["sUDn=@`] (and "northerner", etc)
<<advise [@d"vaIz]
surprise [s@"p_hr\aIz]
It seems as if you have a new phonemic split.>>
Maybe 'advise' works like a derivation of 'advice' in your accent, which would make this a regular application of the Scots Vowel Length Rule. Are 'tied' and 'tide' the same for you?
These are my pronunciations:
wives [waIvz]
hives [haIvz]
spider ["spaI4@`]
rider ["r\aI4@`]
advise (noun) [@d"v@Is]]
advise (verb) [@d"vaIz]
surprise [s@"pr\aIz]
caterpillar ["ka4@%pIl@`]
surprise [s@"p_hr\aIz]
It seems as if you have a new phonemic split.>>
Maybe 'advise' works like a derivation of 'advice' in your accent, which would make this a regular application of the Scots Vowel Length Rule. Are 'tied' and 'tide' the same for you?
These are my pronunciations:
wives [waIvz]
hives [haIvz]
spider ["spaI4@`]
rider ["r\aI4@`]
advise (noun) [@d"v@Is]]
advise (verb) [@d"vaIz]
surprise [s@"pr\aIz]
caterpillar ["ka4@%pIl@`]