Is it /kloz vaUl/ or /klos vaUl/
Pronunciation of close vowel
In the South it's pronounced similarly to the name "Val" as in Valerie.
Before everyone attacks me for saying that, I said "similarly" not "the same as." I know there's a hint of rounding there at the end...
Just how do you pronounce "vowel" exactly? The reason why I ask is that at least around here, "Val" is pronounced ["vE_^{:M_^] and "Valerie" is pronounced ["vE_^{:M\R=:i:]. I myself would be somewhat surprised if you pronounced "vowel" with a reflex of historical [{].
Hmm. I think "vowel" is one syllable. But I'm really bad at transcribing things. I might have done it incorrectly. Here's a link to me saying vowel and Valerie and Val:
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You can judge for yourself whether or not I have a Southern accent and transcribe my speech.
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You can judge for yourself whether or not I have a Southern accent and transcribe my speech.
>> Just how do you pronounce "vowel" exactly? The reason why I ask is that at least around here, "Val" is pronounced ["vE_^{:M_^] and "Valerie" is pronounced ["vE_^{:M\R=:i:]. I myself would be somewhat surprised if you pronounced "vowel" with a reflex of historical [{]. <<
How do you pronounce "vowel" then?
How do you pronounce "vowel" then?
>> I pronounce "vowel" as ["va:o_^M:] or ["vA:Q_^M:]. <<
Hmm. Is that l-vocalization? Do I have l-vocalization too? What would your transcription look like without the l-vocalization?
Hmm. Is that l-vocalization? Do I have l-vocalization too? What would your transcription look like without the l-vocalization?
>>Hmm. Is that l-vocalization? Do I have l-vocalization too? What would your transcription look like without the l-vocalization?<<
Yes, I do have l-vocalization. The matter is that my dialect always has l-vocalization in that particular case - and even when it does not have overt l-vocalization, my /l/ is still a semivowel. Hence I really speak of what said transcription would look like without l-vocalization. However, the closest dialects to mine without l-vocalization would have [5] in such a position, which would result in ["va:o_^5=:] or ["vA:Q_^5=:].
Yes, I do have l-vocalization. The matter is that my dialect always has l-vocalization in that particular case - and even when it does not have overt l-vocalization, my /l/ is still a semivowel. Hence I really speak of what said transcription would look like without l-vocalization. However, the closest dialects to mine without l-vocalization would have [5] in such a position, which would result in ["va:o_^5=:] or ["vA:Q_^5=:].
What is the phonemic transcription look like for "vowel", if it is not /vaUl/? And what phonetic transcription should I use for myself? (link: spqr.byethost4.com/2759293/3.wav
I pronounce it to rhyme with "foul", "towel", "dowel", "cowl", "howl", etc. It's hard to say whether these have one or two syllables.
>>I pronounce it to rhyme with "foul", "towel", "dowel", "cowl", "howl", etc. It's hard to say whether these have one or two syllables.<<
In isolation all of those words rhyme with "vowel" for me as well and are disyllabic. However, these words do not all behave the same here when an postfix or postclitic is attached to them which starts with a vowel - "foul", "cowl", and "howl" are monosyllabic in such cases, whereas "towel", "dowel", and "vowel" are disyllabic in such cases in the dialect here.
In isolation all of those words rhyme with "vowel" for me as well and are disyllabic. However, these words do not all behave the same here when an postfix or postclitic is attached to them which starts with a vowel - "foul", "cowl", and "howl" are monosyllabic in such cases, whereas "towel", "dowel", and "vowel" are disyllabic in such cases in the dialect here.
All the words Guest said are bisyllabic to me too. I seem to break the aU diphthong and end up saying something like [vA U@l]