The Name "PICASSO"

PARISIEN   Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:17 pm GMT
It just occured to me: there aren't any double 'S' in Spanish, so, where does the (rather famous) name 'Picasso' come from?
Guest   Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:20 pm GMT
I hearded that he had Italian ancestry, hence that surname. Also I think that Picazo is the same surname but has different spelling, more Hispanic.
Guest   Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:21 pm GMT
heard*
Guest   Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:25 pm GMT
Indeed there are a few Picassos in Italy. Centered around Genoa:
http://gens.labo.net/en/cognomi/genera.html
Guest   Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:31 pm GMT
Interesting link. It seems that I have some relatives in Rome
Guest   Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:56 pm GMT
His real name was Pablo Ruiz Picasso, Picasso being his second second name. But he wrote once:

"Il nome Picasso. Già i miei amici di Barcellona mi chiamavano con questo nome... più sonoro di Ruiz... Ciò che mi attirava di più in questo nome, d’origine italiana, è senza dubbio la doppia s, assai inusuale in Spagna..."

http://www.akkuaria.com/artecontemporanea/picasso/index.htm
Guest   Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:10 am GMT
It is not a Spanish lastname, I think that quite explains it.
Gues   Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:24 am GMT
The hispanized form of Picasso is Picazo but yes, it's clearly not Spanish but it comes from Italy.
James   Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:39 am GMT
According to an interview with Picasso, the name is Italian (from his mother's side), and he particularly liked the double s:

"My friends back in Barcelona called me by that name. It was stranger, more resonant, than "Ruiz." And those are probably the reasons I adopted it. Do you know what appealed to me about that name? Well, it was undoubtedly the double s, which is fairly unusual in Spain. "Picasso" is of Italian origin, as you know. And the name a person bears or adopts has its importance. Can you imagine me calling myself "Ruiz"? "Pablo Ruiz"? "Diego-José Ruiz"? Or "Juan-Népomucène Ruiz"? I was given I don't know how many names."

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/071480.html

How many names? From Wikipedia:

Picasso was baptized Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Clito, a series of names honouring various saints and relatives. Added to these were Ruiz and Picasso, for his father and mother, respectively, per Spanish custom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Picasso
JGreco   Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:58 am GMT
Picasso is a Catalan spelling. Yes it does occur in Italy also where they have double consonants but in Catalonia they also have this and he is Catalonian.
Guest   Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:17 pm GMT
"Picasso is a Catalan spelling."

Antonio Gaudi, Joan Miro, Salvador Dali... Picasso too?

Then, Spanish art in the 20th century was 100 pc Catalan????
Guest   Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:40 pm GMT
Picasso was born in Malaga ,Andalusia. He was not from Catalonia.
Pablo   Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:31 pm GMT
Picasso was not so much an artist but some kind of modernistic icone of a decadent generation - Salvador Dali was a true artist to be proud of!
Guest   Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:41 pm GMT
<<Then, Spanish art in the 20th century was 100 pc Catalan???? >>
No tontaina but Barcelona attracted a lot of artist in that century. These guys are not from Catalonia:

Painters:
I'm pretty sure many of you don't know who Sorolla,Juan Gris,Francisco Pradilla Ortiz,Francisco Domingo Marques,etc are.

Some links
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Joaqu%C3%ADn_Sorolla
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Defensa_del_Parque_de_Artiller%C3%ADa_de_Montele%C3%B3n.jpg
http://www.artinthepicture.com/artists/Juan_Gris
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Pradilla_Ortiz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Reconquista-rendicion-granada.jpg

Literature:
Leopoldo Alas (Clarín),Miguel de Unamuno ,Juan Ramón Jiménez ,Federico García Lorca ,Camilo José Cela ,etc.

Arquitecture
Secundino Zuazo ,Antonio Palacios ,Santiago Calatrava , rafael moneo,etc,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Our_Lady_of_the_Angels

Link in spanish: http://www.torresquevedo.org/LTQ10/index.php?title=Inventos_de_Leonardo_Torres_Quevedo
El Telekino ha sido reconocido por la IEEE en el año 2006 como Milestone, un hito para la historia de la ingeniería a nivel mundial.


etc.

BTW,for the time being Catalonia is Spain , Maybe when they declare their independence you can say they're not spaniards.
Guest   Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:56 pm GMT
Picasso is more important than all the Catalan artist together.