Which Romance language sounds more Slavic?
To all Romanians who posted in here, I have just a question:
Qui bono?
Or, just in the spirit of this whole stupid thread: Qui Malo? This one is easy to answer: only you, and by extension, all off us.
Even if any of your poorly sustained theories, aggresively displayed, is true, you did a disservice to all of us Romanians who read this forum.
Because, as the Latins said, "E fructu arbor cognsocitur". And I refuse to be judged with a measuring stick built on your size (quite small, I might add). It is simply not fair.
Fac ut vivas.
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N.B. All Latin quotes above were taken from several web sites, without he express consent of authors. I knew once some basic Latin, but I thought funny to follow the trend of this thread. Cherrypicking can be used by everyone (sadly).
Q.E.D.
"Even if any of your poorly sustained theories, aggresively displayed, is true, you did a disservice to all of us Romanians who read this forum." .
And your mother harmed all romanians when she gave you life, scum. . And the theories "aggresivley displayed" are not harming anyone except pussified maggots like you.
"And I refuse to be judged with a measuring stick built on your size (quite small, I might add). It is simply not fair."
The only small stick is the one you got in your pants, cunt, although I think it looks more like a deflated macaroni lol.
You will be judged and measured with a stick meant to drive the sheeps, cuz that is wut youre, a sheep with the soul of a servant.
Are you afraid your western masters won't let you kiss their boots (not to mention their arses) anymore if they learn you think you're romanian :D? You think someone cares about you :D?
I don't give a shit on wut foreigners think about us and you shouldn't either. But a slave like you surely cannot understand that, you need a pat on the head once in a while, right? Good dog, sit.
Only people that count are people that stand tall not broken pawns and betrayers like you.
Take your "arbor" and shove it up your arse, see if it feels "bono" :D. Then you can eat the "fructu".
@Franco,
What Spanish people hate Romanians now?
Sorry just read through the previous pages and realised my previous post is just food for the troll.
On topic: Being a Romanian (never lived in Romania, but speak romanian fluently), I have to say Romanian still SOUNDS more slavic to me than portugese. Written language is a different story. it's just a way of pronouncing. Not having been raised in Romania enables me to listen to Romanian, just the sound, without translating it. Portugese doesn't sound slavic at all in my opinion.
-Nill Illigitimi Carborundum-
I do not think Slavic languages are ugly. Only greedy people and gold diggers think like that.
I haven't heard much of Romanian as well, but it sounds nice.
Just an offtopic qustion, how come that Romanians (and Georgians) play rugby so well?
I was never in Romania (only in the countries around - Hungary, Serbia and Bulgaria). If I visit Romania, I'd be curious to to see some rugby. Are rugby matches in Romania attended by many fans? Or is it just attended by a tiny universitarian elite as in Portugal?
Romanian rugby was close to enter the then 5 nations cup decades ago (now 6 nations with Italy).
Baldewin, you're like a fresh air in this stench. With a good artist, any language can sound beautiful and expressive. Outsider and Aszykbajew will certainly agree with Baldewin.
Craita, it depends on the variants, but as I went along with the forums, the ones with Slavonic-style pronunciation (palatization and fiendish consonant clusters) are Moldavian variant of Romanian and Continental Portuguese.
Brazilian Portuguese has more media exposure and that sounds closer to Spanish. Same is true with broadcast Romanian, which sounds like a Southern Italian dialect with hints of Slavic grammar (e.g. case system) and vocabulary (which is being wiped out, and will lose the uniqueness and richness of the language).
<<which sounds like a Southern Italian dialect with hints of Slavic grammar (e.g. case system)>>
Why is a case system a hint of Slavic grammar? Why isn't it a hint of Germanic grammar, or Finno-Ugric grammar?
Slavic languages may have helped Romanian retain the case system...or it may have been a feature since the fall of the Roman Empire and the Slavic migrations.
Another possibility may be that all Balkan languages have the case system. Romanian, Albanian and Greek have the noun case system.
The thing is that Romania spoke vulgar Latin since it was Roman Empire territory. Vulgar Latin did not preserve the case system of Latin. According to Romanian learners who studied Latin, Latin does not help with the Romanian case system.
The system closest to it can be found in Bulgarian, Macedonian (or Fyromski or whatever), Greek and Albanian.
Latin does not have articles, like Polish and Russian, and a native speaker who struggled to learn English would end up writing as though they speak like Borat (but have a different accent from him).
However, those with the systems closest to Romanian have the enclitic article.
"No matter how Slavic a Romance language sound, or even how ugly a language sounds, a great artist can make it sound beautiful."
Very true, though to me(I'm Greek), Romanian sounds quite nice (even melodious sometimes), close to a southern Italian dialect. The slavic influence is not so big as some say, maybe they just need to wash their ears lol (only in Moldavia there is a more observable slavic influence).
@QED, Gardadefier et.al.
Dear Romanians,
Ive read most of this forum. It was presumably started and attended by some foreign people genuinely interested to some extent in our culture (which nowadays obviously, is not such a common thing except the italian journalists studying the birthplace of Mailat :D ). Then our fellow romanians made quite a fool of themselves transforming this forum into a typical balkan clown wars, taking advantage of some greek guy's clumsy observations. Now, Gardadefier, even though your reply to qed's thread works wonders for our nation's sense of humor international representation (thumbs up!!), maybe we should all just stick to the initial purpose of this forum, and not transform all this into a series of overwhelmingly stupid, yet utterly uninteresting personal vendettas. Thank you for ur consideration and i apologize in advance for the unavoidable paradox of posting an out-of-the-topic reply, while writing a manifesto against this very practice.
Merry Christmas!!!
@alex
The topic has beaten to death in other posts over years, so there is nothing new in here. I'm not sure if the genuine interest in Romanian culture can be satisfied by a languages oriented forum, but there is always something new to learn, isn't it? You are either a newcomer or you did not bother to use the excellent search feature of this forum. No surprises in here, almost nobody does from our fellow Romanians posters. Sadly, the real professionals in the field are missing in these posts (anthropologists, linguists, semioticians). This means that half baked cookies, with marginal knowledge and no specific background, can sustain whatever they want.
The real guys - Brennus, Luis Spaniel, Greg, SPQR and several others either have a lot of research material for free or simply gave up or they have a life. Which reminds me, I have a life too.
Happy Holidays!
@alex
The topic has beaten to death in other posts over years, so there is nothing new in here. I'm not sure if the genuine interest in Romanian culture can be satisfied by a languages oriented forum, but there is always something new to learn, isn't it? You are either a newcomer or you did not bother to use the excellent search feature of this forum. No surprises in here, almost nobody does from our fellow Romanians posters. Sadly, the real professionals in the field are missing in these posts (anthropologists, linguists, semioticians). This means that half baked cookies, with marginal knowledge and no specific background, can sustain whatever they want.
The real guys - Brennus, Luis Spaniel, Greg, SPQR and several others either have a lot of research material for free or simply gave up or they have a life. Which reminds me, I have a life too.
Happy Holidays!