CIA is American, they don't have much idea about other countries. They even believe Irak has nuclear weapons so figure out ... Eurobarometer is more accurate.
Another source:
El catalán en Cataluña
-------------------------Año 2003------------------Año 2008
Lengua materna--------2.177.800---38,70%---- 2.186.000 34,60%
http://www.idescat.cat/dequavi/?TC=444&V0=15&V1=2&VA=2008&x=13&y=12
This is according to the very Catalan autonomous Government, not clueless CIA .
So we have 2.177.800 native Catalan speakers in Catalonia which represents 4,6% of 47 millions of inhabitants Spain has. Compare that to 17%. It's much less in reality
Eurobarometer is European, they don't have much idea about other countries. They even believe Irak has nuclear weapons so figure out ... CIA World Factbook is more accurate.
Another source:
El català a Catalunya
-------------------------Añy 2007
Llengua materna--------4,870,929---53.5%
http://blocs.mesvilaweb.cat/node/view/id/60724
This is according to the very Catalan autonomous Government, not clueless Eurobarometer.
So we have 4,870,929 native Catalan speakers in Catalonia which represents 15% of 41 millions of inhabitants Spain has. Compare that to 4.6%. It's much less in reality
<<El català a Catalunya
-------------------------Añy 2007
Llengua materna--------4,870,929---53.5%
http://blocs.mesvilaweb.cat/node/view/id/60724
>>
If you want to invent numbers don't cite sources that make you out a fool. That link states the same than me. In 2004 only 40% of Catalans spoke Catalan natively in Catalonia, not 53.3%. This means 2 177 800 speakers in total. In 2008 this percentage got reduced to 34,6%.
<< El catalán en Cataluña
-------------------------Año 2003------------------Año 2008
Lengua materna--------2.177.800---38,70%---- 2.186.000 34,60%
http://www.idescat.cat/dequavi/?TC=444&V0=15&V1=2&VA=2008&x=13&y=12 >>
If you want to invent numbers don't cite sources that make you out a fool. That link states the same than me. In 2007 53.5% of Catalans spoke Catalan natively in Catalonia, not 34.70%. This means 4,870,929 speakers in total. In 2007 this percentage increased to 53.5%.
Well, it's the same. You agree that not all Catalans have Catalan as their mother tongue . That was my main point.
ahora que se ha calmado
Con imágenes que ! jode más! (lo siento pero te lo ganas a pulso)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_Iel-u709A
PD no va para nada contra los valencianos, baleares y catalanes no nacionalistas.
Va contra ese amargado pijoprogrechachiguay/ nacionalista que se hace llamar mallorquí para ocultarse siendo nacionalista catalán pero a pesar de él y otros como él; me encanta "hasta su idioma" como “idioma español “y por lo tanto latino a "su pesar".
ADEU GERMANS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEaPk_B6Vfw
Well, it's the same. You agree that not all Spaniards speak Castilian. That was my main point.
All Spaniards speak Spanish, whether natively or not. According to Spanish Constituion all Spaniards shall know Spanish. Also percentage of Spaniards who speak Spanish natively is bigger than percentage of Catalans who speak Catalan natively in Catalonia.