Was West Flemish Spoken in the Pale of Calais?

Proposition   Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:43 am GMT
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Franco   Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:16 pm GMT
Wow, the French are very passionate people. Definately not nordic at all.
GAGA   Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:35 pm GMT
Who cares if West Flemish was spoken in Calais... It's not anymore, thanks to the Frenchies. : )
Germanic Missionaries   Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:54 pm GMT
The French have historically been the worst destroyers of Germanic culture, folk, land and language. Why is this truth verboten within pro-Germanic circles?

Almost every Germanic nation has militarily wiped the floor with the French inside a half a week! Why is the Germanic world so PC and buttstretching towards French imperialist aggression?
Franco   Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:02 pm GMT
I think that it's so because the Germanics adore the French, but as we Spanish say, there are loves that kill. For example Hitler was the one with guts enough to decide nuking Paris at the end of the WW2. In spite of that his subordinates ignored the furher because they thought Paris was too beautiful to be destroyed. On the other hand they didn't doubt about sending V2 missiles to London. The Germanics are stupid in my opinion and the French take advantage of that.
youth   Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:11 pm GMT
paris was not destroyed beacuse the supine french bowed down to the nazis in the first instances and the vichy government handed over the jews gladely. in comparison to denmark which was also occupiened but actively help the jews and the same for the dutch.
Germanic Missionaries   Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:15 pm GMT
Century after century French start war, lose war, then sob, scream, wave arms, get emotional, Germanic caves in, defeated French expand territory at expense of Germanic victors! Aka Agincourt etc, Franco-Dutch wars, creation of Belgium, Napoleonic wars, WW1, WW2, EU...
encore   Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:37 pm GMT
<<I think that it's so because the Germanics adore the French, but as we Spanish say, there are loves that kill. For example Hitler was the one with guts enough to decide nuking Paris at the end of the WW2. In spite of that his subordinates ignored the furher because they thought Paris was too beautiful to be destroyed. On the other hand they didn't doubt about sending V2 missiles to London. The Germanics are stupid in my opinion and the French take advantage of that.>>
I found an ineresting information:
"Léon Joseph Marie Ignace Degrelle (Bouillon., June 15, 1906 – March 31, 1994) was a Walloon Belgian politician, who founded Rexism and later joined the Waffen SS (becoming a leader of its Walloon contingent) which were front-line troops in the fight against the Soviet Union. After World War II, he was a prominent figure in the neo-nazi movements.
When the war began, Degrelle approved of King Leopold III's policy of neutrality. After Belgium was invaded by the Germans on May 10, 1940, the Rexist Party split over the matter of resistance. He was arrested as a suspected collaborator, and evacuated to France, being released by the Germans when the Occupation began. Degrelle returned to Belgium and proclaimed reconstructed Rexism to be in close union with Nazism - in marked contrast with the small group of former Rexists (such as Theo Simon and Lucien Mayer of the Catholic resistance) who had begun fighting against the Nazi occupiers from the underground. In August, Degrelle started contributing to a Nazi newsource, Le Pays Réel (a reference to Charles Maurras).

He joined the Walloon legion of the Wehrmacht, which was raised in August 1941, to combat against the Soviet Union on the Eastern Front, and Degrelle himself joined it in combat (with leadershipof the Rexists passing to Victor Matthys). Lacking any previous military service Degrelle was compelled to join as a private soldier, only later becoming an officer. Initially, the group was meant to represent a continuation of the Belgian Army, and fought as such during Operation Barbarossa - while integrating many Walloons that had volunteered for service. The Walloons were transferred from the Wehrmacht to the control of the Waffen SS in June 1943, becoming the 5th SS Volunteer Sturmbrigade Wallonien.

From 1940, the Belgian Roman Catholic hierarchy had banned all uniforms during Mass. On July 25, 1943, in his native Bouillon, Degrelle was told by Dean Rev. Fr. Poncelet to leave a Requiem Mass, as he was wearing his SS uniform, which Church authorities had strictly forbidden (due to their perception of the pagan and immoral nature of the SS). For assaulting, beating up and sequestering the priest, Degrelle was excommunicated. The excommunication was later removed after confession by the Catholic chaplain of the Walloon Assault Brigade when it became clear that the unit was to be engaged on the Cherkassy frontline.[2]

Severely wounded at Cherkasy in 1944, Degrelle steadily climbed in the Schutzstaffel hierarchy after the inclusion of Walloons in the Waffen-SS, being made an SS-Obersturmbannführer (Lieutenant Colonel) in the early months of 1945. He received the Ritterkreuz (Knights Cross) from Hitler's hands (he later claimed Hitler told him "if I had a son, I wish he'd resemble you"). He was later awarded the oakleaves (mit Eichenlaub), a distinction earned by two other foreigners, the Estonian Alfons Rebane and the Spanish commander of the Blue Division Gen. Agustín Muñoz Grandes.

Military record
Degrelle, Léon Joseph Marie SS-Standartenführer d. R. der Waffen-SS


15.06.1906 in Bouillon, Belgium.
+ 31.03.1994 in San-Antonio-Park Hospital, Málaga, Spain.

NSDAP-Nr.: [Not a member]
SS-Nr.: [None – Walloon Waffen-SS volunteer]

Promotions:
12.02.1942 Gefreiter (Heer)
28.02.1942 Oberfeldwebel (Heer)
01.05.1942 Leutnant d. R. (Heer)
01.06.1943 SS-Obersturmführer d. R. der Waffen-SS
01.01.1944 SS-Hauptsturmführer d. R. der Waffen-SS
20.04.1944 SS-Sturmbannführer d. R. der Waffen-SS
01.01.1945 SS-Obersturmbannführer d. R. der Waffen-SS
20.04.1945 SS-Standartenführer d. R. der Waffen-SS
Note: Degrelle was promoted directly to SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS d. R. by Heinrich Himmler on 02.05.1945; an entry to this effect appears in his Soldbuch, however this promotion cannot be considered official as Himmler had been stripped of all SS and Party posts by Führer order on 28.04.1945.

Decorations & Awards:



Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves22.08.1944 Mentioned in the Wehrmachtbericht
27.08.1944 Eichenlaub zum Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes as SS-Sturmbannführer d. R. and Kdr. 5.SS-Freiwilligen-Panzer-Brigade “Wallonien” / Kampfgruppe Wagner / Armee-Abteilung Narwa / Heeresgruppe Nord, Northeastern Front
20.02.1944 Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes as SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer d. R., and Führer SS-Sturmbrigade “Wallonien” / 8.Armee / Heeresgruppe Süd, Eastern Front
09.10.1944 Deutsches Kreuz in Gold as SS-Sturmbannführer d. R. and Kdr. 5.SS-Freiwilligen-Sturmbrigade “Wallonien” / 5.SS-Panzer-Division “Wiking” / III.(germanische) SS-Panzer-Korps / Armee-Abteilung Grasser / Heeresgruppe Nord, Northeastern Front
21.05.1942 1939 Eisernes Kreuz I. Klasse
13.03.1942 1939 Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse
14.09.1944 Nahkampfspange III.Stufe (Gold)
19.03.1944 Nahkampfspange II.Stufe (Silber)
30.11.1943 Nahkampfspange I.Stufe (Bronze) (other documents indicate 23.12.1943 and 20 .02. 1944)
25.08.1942 Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen in Silber
19.03.1944 Verwundetenabzeichen, 1939 in Gold
20.02.1944 Verwundetenabzeichen, 1939 in Silber (another document indicates 23.12.1943)
15.08.1942 Medaille “Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42” (Ostmedaille)

(Based on: Mike Miller, Axis Biographical Research, http://www.geocities.com/~orion47, June 10 2005)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on_Degrelle
* * *   Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:44 pm GMT
"The French have historically been the worst destroyers of Germanic culture, folk, land and language. Why is this truth verboten within pro-Germanic circles?"

- Who destroyed Berlin, Hamburg, Braunschweign Dresden - the French ?
- Who let Asian Soviet troops rape all women and children in Ostpreußen, Pommern, Schlesien, Böhmen - the French?
- Who were the war criminals who wanted all German population to be wiped out East of the Neisse - the French?
PARISIEN   Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:43 am GMT
>> "The French have historically been the worst destroyers of Germanic culture, folk, land and language. Why is this truth verboten within pro-Germanic circles?"

- Who destroyed Berlin, Hamburg, Braunschweign Dresden - the French ? <<

-- Et l'imbécile pleurniche dans la langue de son ennemi !
Le vrai perdant-né.

L'anglais est la langue des lâches.
Englisch ist die Sprache der Feigen.
Franco   Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:53 am GMT
I've noticed that for Spaniards it's much better being partner of the Germanics than of the French. The French are miserable and small-minded folks, whereas working with the Germans for example always turns enriching and profitable. The Walloons look nice people though.
Künstler   Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:03 am GMT
wallons are poor just like andalusians.
Franco   Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:06 am GMT
At least they look more educate than the Andalusians.
proposition   Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:11 pm GMT
<<-- Et l'imbécile pleurniche dans la langue de son ennemi !
Le vrai perdant-né.

L'anglais est la langue des lâches.
Englisch ist die Sprache der Feigen. >>

Go to doctor,he will heal your nerves.
PARISIEN   Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:22 pm GMT
Soy una loca sin remedio posible.