ROMANIAN the closest to CLASSICAL LATIN

Check this out:
Lup/lupul = wolf/the wolf in Romanian; lup/lupu = to die/dead in Etruscan. Similarly, haita = wolf pack in Romanian; Aita = the god of the underworld the equivalent of Greek Hades, for the Etruscans. Etruscan funerary paintings shows Aita wearing on his head the head and fur of a wolf! It is similar to the Egyptian jackal headed Upuaut/Wepwawet or Greek Ophois. Upuaut had a double role, being the god of war (just like the wolf headed Dacian banners!) and of the funerary worship, opening the way both for the troops and for the spirits of the dead.
Luptã (Romanian) = lucta (Latin) = fight. Note that the Romanian word stands from lup (wolf), the symbol from the banners of the Dacian warriors. It is not the case of the Latin word, which seems to be imported from Dacian, the Romans maintaining themselves the cult of the she-wolf, mother of Romulus and Remus, the founders of Rome!
In the Balkan folk medicine and apotropaeic magic, the destructive aspect of the wolf's mouth is symbolically turned around and used against demonic forces and diseases.
The magic act of pulling children through the wolf's mouth in the context of birth ritual and infant care shows that the symbolism of the wolf's mouth is connected with the female reproductive organs.
The wolf appears at the most important transitory moments in the human life cycle (birth - marriage - death).

OK. I'll go further with this, even if you will consider it hillarious. But check this out too:
The Vedic heaven, the "world of the fathers", called Valak-Hilyah, was inhabited by the 60.000 deities of light, called Valakhilyas and presented in the Mahabharata and in the Puranas. It resembles the Germanic Valhalla, both names coming from the root Valak/Valk that might be of Scythian origin. Valakhilyas, the Lilliputian sages were said to be drinkers of Sun-rays (maricipah). They were worshipping the sun god.
valhalla and valachs is just another coincidence. I'll take it like that because I don't have the guts to call it anything else.

Anyway, you can check this by yourself. A text full of bizzare coincidences. You decide yourself. For me is just a list of amazing coincidences which are making me think differently and taking into onsideration facts which I've ignored since now.
http://www.angelfire.com/realm/vlachs/

See, also, the coincidence between the name WOLF and WALLACH.

It resembles the Germanic Valhalla, both names coming from the root Valak/Valk that might be of Scythian origin. Valakhilyas, the Lilliputian sages were said to be drinkers of Sun-rays (maricipah). They were worshipping the sun god.
See the coincidence between Roman word MUNICIPAL and MARICIPAH. And also notice the spelling AH (Romanian ă).

All I wanna say is that Dacian Kingdom and Roman Empire could be more related than it is known now. And they could have much more in common in ancient times.

And some are carry on saying that we have nothing to do with Latinity and are just a made up language and nation.

Georgero,
I do not know whether you are a Romanian or not, but almost all of those so-called proofs you have brought, are not really accepted by any serious linguist or historian; in Romania all this theories are known under the name of "protochronism", that is a nationalistic ideological movement that tries to demonstrate that Romania, or what is today Romania, was once, at least, the hub of the universe, that we are older than anyone else and other similar things.
Besides that, neither Sanskrit nor even Vedic Sanskrit is the "base of the Indoeuropean languages". This was an early 19th century naive idea. Sanskrit (along with any other Indoeuropean language) can be traced back to an even older language which is usually called "the common Indoeuropean".

I'm not trying to proove anything. I'm not a nationalistic I don't want to say that Romanians are the center of the world. All what I'm trynna say is that these coincidences are weird. And maybe the idea of Dacian language being closed to Latin is not such a crazy idea.

Indeed, I don't like the trend which such ideas might take. As nationalism and again, the idea of "ombilico del mondo". But still, can anyone explain such coincidental facts?

Can I Try?
Well, they are all indoeuropean people, so it is natural that they share some linguistics and cultural coincidences

It's funny how all this information is being said about Romania, coincidence? No. They just need more stuff to prove their theory of
ancient this and ancient that. It's the Romanian revolutionary way to restore or falsify their way back and say that THEY too were once great.

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augustin717 Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:53 pm GMT
Georgero,
I do not know whether you are a Romanian or not, but almost all of those so-called proofs you have brought, are not really accepted by any serious linguist or historian; in Romania all this theories are known under the name of "protochronism", that is a nationalistic ideological movement that tries to demonstrate that Romania, or what is today Romania, was once, at least, the hub of the universe, that we are older than anyone else and other similar things.
Besides that, neither Sanskrit nor even Vedic Sanskrit is the "base of the Indoeuropean languages". This was an early 19th century naive idea. Sanskrit (along with any other Indoeuropean language) can be traced back to an even older language which is usually called "the common Indoeuropean".
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I see augustin's interpretation more rational and yet refreshing from all other Romanians...

Those are just interesting clues which may suggest that Dacian language could be more related with Latin than it is known now. Nobody need to proove anything and neither to show anyone and anymore that Romanians are great and mighty. I just saw these ideas, which I didn't know about their existence, and I wanted to see what other people think about such coincindences, which, for me, look rather interesting... That's all. I'm not a nationalist freak, I don't claim teritorries, I don't post here to make some stupid and worthless propaganda... I don't need someone to say how great Romanians were, I don't give a shit on stuff like that...
Those were just some ideas which I didn't pay attention before, but, regarding what Sorin said earlier, I just found some connections which, indeed, sounded weird to me.
The fact is that there is not any person in the world that knows anything about Dacian language and these kind of clues might be helpful in a way or another. Maybe someone will find these similarities and will do some proper research. Meanwhile, if you like them and if you have enough time, you can reflect on them and think whatever you like. They are just there... If don't, just pass by.

To whom it may concern: This anti-moon forum is not about which language is closer to Classical Latin. It is about which language(s) are more beautiful and pleasing to the ear compared to others. Are some languages more beautiful than others? Of course! Are some people more beautiful and physically attractive than others? Yes indeed! Does anybody in their right mind think that the German language is more beautiful than French? Of course not! Does anybody in their right mind really believe that Romanian is more beautiful than Italian? Absolutely NOT! I guarantee you, that if people in any country, on any continent, were to hear both Italian and Romanian spoken, at least 95% of the people would say that Italian is more beautiful and pleasing to the ear than Romanian. The subject of Romanian being closest to Classic Latin is a moot point. It is well known that Classic Latin began to fade away after the Roman Golden Age (80 B.C. to 14 A.D.), and was slowly being replaced by Vulgar Latin. The Vulgar Latin spoken by the Roman soldiers, settlers, and others was the language that was spoken in any of the lands that the Roman soldiers had conquered, whether it was Cislapine Gaul, Transalpine Gaul, Iberia, or good ol' Dacia. And furthermore, most of the "Roman" soldiers and settlers who arrived in Dacia did not even come from Roman Italy! It is hard to fathom that any of these "Latin" people who colonized ancient Dacia even spoke Classical Latin. Rather, it was the Wallachians, or Vlachs of the 19th century who severely altered their language by removing it of Slavic words and deliberately replacing them with Latin words. Classical Latin reappeared in "Romania" because "Romanian" "intellectuals" wished that their languag e be re-made into Latin to the chagrin of their Slavic and Magyar neighbors.

a.p.a.m. : « It is well known that Classic Latin began to fade away after the Roman Golden Age (80 B.C. to 14 A.D.), and was slowly being replaced by Vulgar Latin. »

Faux. Si je transpose tes dires sur la languen anglaise, ça revient à dire que le moyen-anglais écrit de Chaucer a été remplacé l'anglais parlé de « East Enders ».

Le scriptolatin classique a toujours coexisté avec l'orolatin non-classique. De même, l'orolatin classique a toujours coexisté avec le scriptolatin non-classique