ROMANIAN the closest to CLASSICAL LATIN
I really don't see where you want to get to. It is obvious, and nobody is argueing with the fact that Hungarians came to the area after Romanians, and much much later than Slavic people, around 895. This is not explaining any political change in the XXth century, man! Hungary, a country that had its own constitution only 7 years after Magna Charta - while Romania was established centuries later. Well they did well. Waited until Hungarians build up their country (with a fantastic railway network, houses, mines, etc) and took away a complete land. I can understand this.
Hey I know: you must be an indian :D (or is there Swiss nationality? Or Belgian? This is so childish).
This is not about blood, it was Hitler who thought that. However Hungarians are indeed a nation but mixed well. I think there is no pure Hungarian blood as of today.
PS: Erdely doesn't mean over the woods. It means woody area. Like Puszta or Alfold. Aren't they Hungarian lands or what? :)))
Come back with something serious that could explain dismembering an old state.
Lesson 2: go to the official sit of Brasov, and check history section. And ask yourself a question, if history of Romania is a fact, why they need to lie?
I forgot to reply to your last question: yes, Hungarian King Matthias Hunyadi was half-Romanian. That means only one thing: he did not want to be other than Hungarian king. Otherwise, why didn't he took his army and made old Romanian dream true? Or, was he also oppressed, like you said before? Hungarian Peasants held a gun to his head and said you'll be our king or you die? :))))
All I want to know- this is why i'm here - if today's Romanian language was created like the country or is it something genuine. Can someone answer? Coz even the first Romanian Bible was translated by Hungarians and printed in Hungary, so I wouldn't be surprised whatever the truth is.
Milestones in Sibiu history*
1292 The first hospital in Romania.
1380 The first documented school in Romania
1494 The first pharmacy in Romania
1534 The first papermill in Romania
1544 The first book in Romanian is printed here.
1551 The first experiment with rockets in the world by Conrad Hass
1671 The methane gas is discovered near Sibiu
1782 Franz Joseph Müller discovers the chemical element Telur
1795 At Cisnadie is installed the first lightning rod in SE Europe.
1797 Samuel von Hahnemann opens the world first laboratory of homeopathy
1817 Brukenthal Museum, the first museum in Romania
1852 First issue of Telegraful Roman the oldest newspaper in SE Europe
1859 The Liars Bridge, the first cast-iron bridge in Romania
1875 The first engineering manufacturing in Transylvania
1896 The first electric power in Romania and the first power line in this part of Europe.
1904 The second city in Europe where an electric tramway is used
NOTE: 'Romania' means the actual territory of Romania
No f'ing comment. Bye guys.
* Sibiu is Nagyszeben, Hungarian town until 1920
"Szeben" is not a Hungarian toponym, though. I'll leave it to you to guess ...
The article Aldo refers to is not the best one could find on the Romanian ethnogenesis, but it is rather fair in the treatment it gives to the Romanian grammar and language itself.
'the grand reintroduction of Latin; via French & Italian and referencing C.L vocabulary. circa late 19century."
It's overwhelmingly French; the Italian influence is insignificant.
For all ignorants on this forum, italian&french words found in romanian language are neologisms...and why from french because romanian is more latin then french
Sorry for my english
Most people have no idea! I'm studding ancient history and I've been reading a book that demonstrates that the true origin of Latin is Troyon which is Thracian a.k.a. Geto-Dacian. And supposedly, Greek, which also has its origin from Geto-Dacian heavily influenced Latin along with other cultures the Romans ... "absorbed".. 94% of everything "Roman" isn't Roman!! Every country the Roman Empire confronted was stolen of all its goods! When Dacia was conquered 1,640,000 kg of gold, 3,310,000 kg of silver was taken to Rome, where all roman citizens were relieved of paying taxes for a year; they were all paid 650 "denari" to finance 123 holidays in Rome with 10.000 gladiators and 11.000 wild animals. Well that's money without which the Roman Empire would have collapsed (you can imagine how much was taken if the citizens were granted so much)!! It's all true, even writtings from Homer and many many others prove it! The evidence is all there! Well, it's a long book and very well documented, it mentions the Tartarian tablets, which I have seen denied and easily discredited by some who obviously don’t know what they are talking about (really pissed me off), while experts from Bulgaria, Russia and other countries have affirmed they are authentic and sustain practically everything written in my book so far.
** This explains the “Romanization” of Dacia (Romanian and other scholars say that the word “Romanization” doesn’t fit at all and it is a misinterpretation) Dacian already had “roman” words and grammar, actually Dacian is the mother of Latin. Malta was under Roman rule for over 4 centuries and they weren’t “Romanized” at all! This many seem very contradictory to what most people think... but I truly believe it, and if a whole bunch of people are going to curse at it and make fun of it... well so be it!
Most people have no idea! I'm studding ancient history and I've been reading a book that demonstrates that the true origin of Latin is Troyon which is Thracian a.k.a. Geto-Dacian. And supposedly, Greek, which also has its origin from Geto-Dacian heavily influenced Latin along with other cultures the Romans ... "absorbed".. 94% of everything "Roman" isn't Roman!! Every country the Roman Empire confronted was stolen of all its goods! When Dacia was conquered 1,640,000 kg of gold, 3,310,000 kg of silver was taken to Rome, where all roman citizens were relieved of paying taxes for a year; they were all paid 650 "denari" to finance 123 holidays in Rome with 10.000 gladiators and 11.000 wild animals. Well that's money without which the Roman Empire would have collapsed (you can imagine how much was taken if the citizens were granted so much)!! It's all true, even writtings from Homer and many many others prove it! The evidence is all there! Well, it's a long book and very well documented, it mentions the Tartarian tablets, which I have seen denied and easily discredited by some who obviously don’t know what they are talking about (really pissed me off), while experts from Bulgaria, Russia and other countries have affirmed they are authentic and sustain practically everything written in my book so far.
** This explains the “Romanization” of Dacia (Romanian and other scholars say that the word “Romanization” doesn’t fit at all and it is a misinterpretation) Dacian already had “roman” words and grammar, actually Dacian is the mother of Latin. Malta was under Roman rule for over 4 centuries and they weren’t “Romanized” at all! This many seem very contradictory to what most people think... but I truly believe it, and if a whole bunch of people are going to curse at it and make fun of it... well so be it!
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What a bunch of Baloney! Hence, nationalism of Romanians.
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Someone used my my name.
I read by accident your confrontation.. especially the part were an Italian and an Romnian confront different ideas of Latinity. funny especially how the Italian is insulting that makes you very Italian in my New Yorker perception...
do you remmeber the old immigrants in NY? all those poor italians coming here...?
Certaines théories élaborées au cours du XIXe s. prétendaient que le français était une langue grecque. Les mythes sur l'origine des langues ont toujours existé. Ils sont utiles car ils contiennent souvent une part ou une forme de vérité.
Tu aduce istos intro (Plautus)
Tu adu (pe) astia inauntru. (Romanian)
inauntru, id est Latine in+intro
Si plura exempla voletis mihi scribere.
Marin POPAN
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