Languages with devoiced vowels/

YTX   Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:33 am GMT
Brazilian Portuguese u/i at the end of words after voieless consonants
Japanese u/i between voiceless consonants
Brennus   Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:02 am GMT
Jims,

Your post is not at all clear.

First of all, could you provide some examples of devoiced voicless consonants in Japanese and Brazlian Portuguese?

Secondly, what is it about devoiced voicless consonants that you wish to discuss?

Lastly, the topic may be too specialized for this forum.
YTX   Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:15 am GMT
Portuguese - sucesso
japanese - desu ka, karasu, yusuke, kyosuke fukai shikon
YTX   Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:16 am GMT
I wanna know more languages witrh them
Sander   Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:54 am GMT
Japanese only devoices vowels when whispering. Just like Quebecian French.
YTX   Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:02 am GMT
No, it is a rule.
Have you listened enougj Japanese music?
Sander   Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:31 am GMT
No, and excuse me but I trust an encyclopedia more than you.
YTX   Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:33 am GMT
Hey, don't you trust me, a Japanese language teacher
lol.
YTX   Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:36 am GMT
Encyclopedia knows nothing about the Japanese language.
I ve been a Japanese teacher since 1992 and I can't believe I can be defeated by an encyclopedia
greg   Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:56 pm GMT
On trouve des voyelles sourdes (ou dévoisées) dans toutes les langues : il suffit de murmurer les voyelles.
Sander   Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:01 pm GMT
Well, fact is that I can't check if you're a 'Japanese teacher' , I can check the encyclopedia.
Sandar   Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:38 pm GMT
Well, fact os that you have no argument on how to beat me, but if you feel happy, pretend that I am not a teacher
lol...
and encyclopedia boy check t
http://www.sf.airnet.ne.jp/~ts/japanese/message/jpnEsITHLrHErFGbNMT.html

Mr. Encyclopedia... learn some japanese and not some encyclopedia
than you.
MR. Encyclopedia, do you want me to go your home to prove tham I am a Japanese teacher
Sander   Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:49 pm GMT
Oh I wonder who's trying to impersonate me...
Candy   Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:51 pm GMT
well, they can't even get your name right!
Candy   Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:05 pm GMT
Sander, let me suck your dick