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A concept of time
I said: If Now is changing with things, it cannot judge things as past, present, and future.
Ant_222 wrote:
<<Of course Now (= current time moment) is changing. How can that hinder us from determining what is behind now and what is in front of it?>>
My reply:
If yesterday I read a letter, the action is past compared with Now.
But if Now is changing together with reading a letter, I will not use Simple Past to say it. I will forever say "I am reading a letter". By tomorrow, I still say now I am reading a letter, because Now is changing with reading the letter. The whole thing is, however, absurd.
This is why I insist Now will not be changing together with the action.
Ant_222 wrote:
<<Of course Now (= current time moment) is changing. How can that hinder us from determining what is behind now and what is in front of it?>>
My reply:
If yesterday I read a letter, the action is past compared with Now.
But if Now is changing together with reading a letter, I will not use Simple Past to say it. I will forever say "I am reading a letter". By tomorrow, I still say now I am reading a letter, because Now is changing with reading the letter. The whole thing is, however, absurd.
This is why I insist Now will not be changing together with the action.
Ant_222 wrote:
<<As to me, I have given clear definitions of past, present and futurer actions and time. Should I repeat them again?>>
My reply:
No, certainty not. Please don't. Never do it again, please. However, I do want to know the timing for the Present Perfect tense.
<<As to me, I have given clear definitions of past, present and futurer actions and time. Should I repeat them again?>>
My reply:
No, certainty not. Please don't. Never do it again, please. However, I do want to know the timing for the Present Perfect tense.
<<Time flows. The Universe goes through a series of states. The state is a single-valued function of time.>>
My God!!
My God!!
«f yesterday I read a letter, the action is past compared with Now.
But if Now is changing together with reading a letter, I will not use Simple Past to say it. I will forever say "I am reading a letter".»
Of course, no.
Relative to the new Now the letter will have been read.
«No, certainty not. Please don't. Never do it again, please. However, I do want to know the timing for the Present Perfect tense.»
Are you scared by the simplicity of my definitinos? Are they too simple and natural for you to understand them?
What do you mean by the timing for Present Perfect?
«My God!!»
What's the matter?
But if Now is changing together with reading a letter, I will not use Simple Past to say it. I will forever say "I am reading a letter".»
Of course, no.
Relative to the new Now the letter will have been read.
«No, certainty not. Please don't. Never do it again, please. However, I do want to know the timing for the Present Perfect tense.»
Are you scared by the simplicity of my definitinos? Are they too simple and natural for you to understand them?
What do you mean by the timing for Present Perfect?
«My God!!»
What's the matter?
Ant_222 wrot:
<<If you need a web page for some reason, find it yourself>>
My reply:
I have noticed you seldom give examples for your symbols. When you explain them in words, however, they are something not for understanding, but perplexity:
"+inf is such time moment, that there is no later moments."
"-inf is such time moment, that there is no earlier moments."
"If we want to denote all time moments before some moment..."
"Time flows. The Universe goes through a series of states. The state is a single-valued function of time."
Where then will be the examples? Has Yesterday no earlier moments? Has Tomorrow no later moments? I simply have no idea how to "denote all time moments"; I cannot think of any examples. Further, in order to understand English tense, we have to know "The Universe goes through a series of states. The state is a single-valued function of time"?
However, I understand how useful these symbols and jargons are. They put students into silence. They are used to hide our own embarrassment. My own symbols are:
Present = t{(0-inf)}^t
Past ={*_*}
Future = :-)
== If you need a web page for some reason, find it yourself.
<<If you need a web page for some reason, find it yourself>>
My reply:
I have noticed you seldom give examples for your symbols. When you explain them in words, however, they are something not for understanding, but perplexity:
"+inf is such time moment, that there is no later moments."
"-inf is such time moment, that there is no earlier moments."
"If we want to denote all time moments before some moment..."
"Time flows. The Universe goes through a series of states. The state is a single-valued function of time."
Where then will be the examples? Has Yesterday no earlier moments? Has Tomorrow no later moments? I simply have no idea how to "denote all time moments"; I cannot think of any examples. Further, in order to understand English tense, we have to know "The Universe goes through a series of states. The state is a single-valued function of time"?
However, I understand how useful these symbols and jargons are. They put students into silence. They are used to hide our own embarrassment. My own symbols are:
Present = t{(0-inf)}^t
Past ={*_*}
Future = :-)
== If you need a web page for some reason, find it yourself.
Ant_222 wrote:
<<What do you mean by the timing for Present Perfect?>>
My reply:
Surprise. You know the timing of the Universe ("The Universe goes through a series of states. The state is a single-valued function of time"), but not the timing for Present Perfect?
<<What do you mean by the timing for Present Perfect?>>
My reply:
Surprise. You know the timing of the Universe ("The Universe goes through a series of states. The state is a single-valued function of time"), but not the timing for Present Perfect?
Ant_222 wrote:
<<So, I think you didn't solve any real problem. But you have solved a lot of problems that you created.>>
My reply: Like the problem of "My father has changed two cars since 1979"? I am afraid I didn't bring it up myself.
<<So, I think you didn't solve any real problem. But you have solved a lot of problems that you created.>>
My reply: Like the problem of "My father has changed two cars since 1979"? I am afraid I didn't bring it up myself.
I said: The number of times (of changing cars) within 'since 1979' can only be interpreted as Sometimes, Often, Scarcely, etc. and cannot nullify the function of Since.
Ant_222 wrote:
<<I repeat, that I don't see any reason to interpret them in such way.>>
My reply:
My I ask, is "My father changes car sometimes" a past action or a present action?
Ant_222 wrote:
<<I repeat, that I don't see any reason to interpret them in such way.>>
My reply:
My I ask, is "My father changes car sometimes" a past action or a present action?
My I ask, is "My father changes car sometimes" a past action or a present action?
My I ask, is "My father often changes car" a past action or a present action?
My I ask, is "My father seldom changes car" a past action or a present action?
My I ask, is "My father often changes car" a past action or a present action?
My I ask, is "My father seldom changes car" a past action or a present action?
I wrote:
<<Present = t{(0-inf)}^t>>
Sorry, the correct version is:
Present = t{(0-inf)^t}
Just a typo.
<<Present = t{(0-inf)}^t>>
Sorry, the correct version is:
Present = t{(0-inf)^t}
Just a typo.
I said: If yesterday I read a letter, the action is past compared with Now. But if Now is changing together with reading a letter, I will not use Simple Past to say it. I will forever say "I am reading a letter".
Ant_222 wrote:
<<Of course, no.
Relative to the new Now the letter will have been read.>>
My reply:
But if there were a series of actions "He read the letter, and told Mary about it. Mary went to her father and begged him to change his decision", are there different cases of Now in each of these past actions? Or did they embrace the same Now?
Ant_222 wrote:
<<Of course, no.
Relative to the new Now the letter will have been read.>>
My reply:
But if there were a series of actions "He read the letter, and told Mary about it. Mary went to her father and begged him to change his decision", are there different cases of Now in each of these past actions? Or did they embrace the same Now?
«My I ask, is "My father changes car sometimes" a past action or a present action?»
I'd say that's a number of actions, some of which are in the past and some in the future. Therefore, if considered as a whole, it can be said it's a present action.
«Where then will be the examples? Has Yesterday no earlier moments? Has Tomorrow no later moments?»
No, the +/- infinity is used to denote periods of time that have no right/left limit.
I simply have no idea how to "denote all time moments"
It's very simple. Just put them all into one multitide.
For example, to denote all integer numbers more than 221, you can write:
{N, N>221}
That is, the multitude of integers N, such that N exceeds 221.
You can do the same with time moments. To denote all time momets you can write: {t, t belogs to T}, where T is the multidure of timemoments. Or even simplier:
Any t, such that t is a time moment.
This gives you all the timemoments.
«Further, in order to understand English tense, we have to know "The Universe goes through a series of states. The state is a single-valued function of time"?
If you had understood that the future and the present are not overlapping, and a present action is not also a past action, that wouldn't have been needed ;)
Because the majority of people know that.
«Present = t{(0-inf)}^t
Past ={*_*}
Future = :-)»
You hide your total incompetence under this delirium. It's a great shame not to know the very basics of the fundamental sciences.
By the way, if you want a web page, visit wikipedia.
Topics are:
set, multitude
set theory,
bollean logic,
George Boole
boolean algebra,
sentential calculus,
functional calculus/predicate calculus,
classical mechanics/mechanics
philosophy (especially, Aristotle and Bertrand Russel)
Wolfram Research webpage,
The woks of D. Miller on his etherwind experiments (in Physical Rewiev Magizine, 1920s-30s)
Actually, I am pretty sure you won't read anything of the above, becasue it's much more clever than playing with words, taking people off and stuff. The problem is that the former requires a bit of thinking...
I'd say that's a number of actions, some of which are in the past and some in the future. Therefore, if considered as a whole, it can be said it's a present action.
«Where then will be the examples? Has Yesterday no earlier moments? Has Tomorrow no later moments?»
No, the +/- infinity is used to denote periods of time that have no right/left limit.
I simply have no idea how to "denote all time moments"
It's very simple. Just put them all into one multitide.
For example, to denote all integer numbers more than 221, you can write:
{N, N>221}
That is, the multitude of integers N, such that N exceeds 221.
You can do the same with time moments. To denote all time momets you can write: {t, t belogs to T}, where T is the multidure of timemoments. Or even simplier:
Any t, such that t is a time moment.
This gives you all the timemoments.
«Further, in order to understand English tense, we have to know "The Universe goes through a series of states. The state is a single-valued function of time"?
If you had understood that the future and the present are not overlapping, and a present action is not also a past action, that wouldn't have been needed ;)
Because the majority of people know that.
«Present = t{(0-inf)}^t
Past ={*_*}
Future = :-)»
You hide your total incompetence under this delirium. It's a great shame not to know the very basics of the fundamental sciences.
By the way, if you want a web page, visit wikipedia.
Topics are:
set, multitude
set theory,
bollean logic,
George Boole
boolean algebra,
sentential calculus,
functional calculus/predicate calculus,
classical mechanics/mechanics
philosophy (especially, Aristotle and Bertrand Russel)
Wolfram Research webpage,
The woks of D. Miller on his etherwind experiments (in Physical Rewiev Magizine, 1920s-30s)
Actually, I am pretty sure you won't read anything of the above, becasue it's much more clever than playing with words, taking people off and stuff. The problem is that the former requires a bit of thinking...
«But if there were a series of actions "He read the letter, and told Mary about it. Mary went to her father and begged him to change his decision", are there different cases of Now in each of these past actions? Or did they embrace the same Now?»
They're all past actions by the moment of speech. Therefore, at that moment all the actions were behind it.
Actions can't embarrace Now. Don't know what do you mean...
They're all past actions by the moment of speech. Therefore, at that moment all the actions were behind it.
Actions can't embarrace Now. Don't know what do you mean...