Vive Le Quebec libre

Aldebarán   Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:08 am GMT
Aldebarán u always using the "Mexico Example"... >=

Upss sorry I will correct:

That's ridiculous, it's like say that Peru is a pale imatation of Spain, they have a lot in common but they have differences too, in the same way a son is not identical to his mother.

Ok... here in Mexico we must not forget of our South American sister nations.

P.D. Viva El Québec Libre....

La única nación francófona en América del Norte.!

And our only Latin sister in North America too.
Steve K   Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:16 am GMT
Sebastien

You resent being in Canada. You like to talk down English Canadians. You want to be free of Canada. Go for it. If that is the democractically expressed view of a good majoirity of Quebeckers, good!

I have not knocked Quebecois. I have just said that Quebec is a drag on Canada. Canada's obsession with catering to the complaining from Quebec (such as yours) distracts us from our national project as English Canadians. I believe we would be better off without them (you). Why should that make you angry? I do not disrespect you and your national project. I encourage you. Why do you feel compelled to disrespect ours?
Uriel   Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:49 am GMT
<<<I do not disrespect you and your national project. I encourage you. Why do you feel compelled to disrespect ours? >>>


Uh, Steve, that's pretty much the whole THEME of this thread....
Sigma   Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:50 am GMT
When is the next referendum for Québec?
Uriel   Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:20 am GMT
No referendum has been scheduled. But if you would like to keep track of Canadian opinion on the subject, here's a link:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1126907414446

Apparently, in honor of the 10-year anniversary of the last referendum, the Toronto Star will be publishing a series of articles on attitudes in today's Quebec.
Uriel   Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:38 am GMT
Or, since you seem comfortable with the French language:

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/article/article_complet.php?path=/actualites/article/11/1,63,0,062005,1066116.php

This and other articles on the subject can be found in Montreal's La Presse.
Carlos (P)(e)(R)(u)   Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:17 am GMT
>>>>>And our only Latin sister in North America too.<<<<<

Gran ofensa a los mexicanos...
Sigma   Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:25 am GMT
Gran ofensa a los mexicanos... >=

¿Por que gran ofensa Carlos?

Aldebarán tiene razón en Norteamérica las 2 unicas regiones latinas son El Québec Y México.

Centroamérica y Sudamérica son casi en su totalidad regiones latinas, pero, en este caso el se esta refiriendo únicamente a Norteamérica, donde tu sabes bien, hay una gran población Anglosajona y muy poca población Latina.
Tiffany   Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:10 am GMT
Right on, Uriel. If I remember correctly, Canada is a separate country from the US too and that didn't occur yesterday. Proximity is always a factor in any cultural similarity, but I wouldn't dare call Portugal a pale imitation of Spain even though it is engulfed by it! I cannot believe some of the hypocrisy on this thread! It's appalling.

My opinion on Quebec? Canada needs to let go. I don't care if Quebec ultimately wants to stay part of Canada. Canada is better off without them because they feel persecuted no matter how much the government bends backwards to try and pamper them.

Whoever lives in Quebec presently and wants to remain Canadian should cross the newly created border. Then they can create new Quebec in Canada, the new country of Quebec can celebrate independence day and everyone is happy!
Steve K   Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:21 am GMT
I agree with Tiffany.
Candy   Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:29 am GMT
<<I'm just coming from that city, when I went In Netherlands for the two last days. English is not spoken there, except by tourists, foreign businessmen and some people who work in European administration>>

This was your setence, Bernard! Netherlands, not Belgium!?
In this case, I'm sure you're right. I don't know Belgium well enough to judge.
Guest   Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:03 am GMT
This was your setence, Bernard! Netherlands, not Belgium!?
In this case, I'm sure you're right. I don't know Belgium well enough to judge.

" I'm just coming from that city (PS : Brussels ; it was the subject we were speaking above in other posts), when I went In Netherlands for the two last days (PS, from Paris to go to Netherlands you have to cross thru Belgium, and Brussels, So I stopped at Brussels when going to netherlands, that's the meaning of the sentence...). English is not spoken there, except by tourists, foreign businessmen and some people who work in European administration (in Brussels french is the native language of 70% of population, then Dutch (20%) - both are the usual and official languages in that bilingual city, english is not. that was just the meanning of my sentence - I'm sorry for your anglophone pride If it felt hurted that english is not yet the dominant language in Brussels but that's the way it is.
Candy   Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:07 am GMT
Bernard:
you really don't have to describe your itinerary in detail. I'm sorry if I misunderstood you.

I KNOW that English is not widely spoken in Brussels. I couldn't possibly care less.

<< I'm sorry for your anglophone pride If it felt hurted that english is not yet the dominant language in Brussels but that's the way it is. >>

Oh for f*ck's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bernard   Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:09 am GMT
but the debate is deriving from Québec to Belgium... witch is not the subject in fact, let's return to Quebec.
bernard   Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:28 am GMT
" Then why is it okay to say Canada is a "pale imitation" of the US? "

I think Aldebaran wanted to say the comparision between the "mother country" and the "son country" (ps: strange expressions) - doesn't work well because they share very different geographical, historical and human characteristics being situated on different continents. United states is of course not the "mother country" of english Canada. these countries are "brother countries"; their "mother country" is England. USA and English Canada share both the herency of England and also the characterisitics of being situated in north America. that's why they share very muchtogether. Because USA is 10 times more populated than English Canada it influence it very much, and give the impression that English Canada is an imitation of USA despite the fact that english canadians don't like to be assimilated to United-statians. The same phenomenon appears between Argentina and Uruguay. Uruguay appears to be an little imitation of his big neighbouring brother.