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Internationally oriented
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Located in the heart of Europe
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Value for money
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Last updated: 28-07-2005
Wahey!!
Someone who can cut and paste as well as Adam!
Riko, Greg, Sebastian and company..just a lot of loud hollering, sarcasm and vitriol without any attempt to deal with issues raised by others. They are mostly animated by a self-pitying resentment of the role of Engish, the most widely recognized international language.
French is probably not on the list of the top ten useful international languages, although it is a language I greatly enjoy, and prefer listening to. I enjoy it in movies, audiobooks, books and in personal interaction with French people. That does not change the fact that the sun has set on French as an international language and that will not change.
Spanish is one of many widely used regional languages. All languages are equally valid creations of human ingenuity. Some are more useful than others.Usefulness depends on one's situation and objectives. Usefulness has nothing to do with the richness of a language and the intrinsic enjoyment of learning a language.
French is probably not on the list of the top ten useful international languages, although it is a language I greatly enjoy, and prefer listening to. I enjoy it in movies, audiobooks, books and in personal interaction with French people. That does not change the fact that the sun has set on French as an international language and that will not change. <=
Maybe French language is in decadency but the "French" will always have Spanish language, a sister tongue of French to help them as an international language.
For a Spanish speaker French is so much easy to learn than English so what language do you think we will chose to learn? A language (English) that is imposed by force to be learn or a language that we will learn by our own free will (French) because is so similar to our mother tongue?
If half of the native speakers of Spanish learn French that will help the tongue to gain more presence as an international language don't you think?.
mostly animated by a self-pitying resentment of the role of Engish, the most widely recognized international language.>=
The topic theme is the independence of Québec, so if we are here having struggles with all of you is based in the topic's main idea, not if English is or not the most important international language.
<<Why are they completely anglicizing their entire education/university system?>>
Candy said:
Uhm, they aren't. Where do you get this rubbish?
The 'rubbish' comes from web sites based out of the Netherlands promoting the English language instruction in universities. You asked, I answered.
" French is probably not on the list of the top ten useful international languages "...
You should add '...in north America"
In Europe French is more spoken than English...
As I said before in January I'm going into an student exchange to Paris, and one of the things I liked more is the fact that I didn't need "the fucking TOEFL" anymore in order to go the ESC Paris.
I think is very unfair that a lot of Anglo-Saxons came here (Mexico and other Spanish speaking countries) into students exchanges and they are not asked to present such a harsh exam in Spanish like the TOEFL, they came here all fresh without worrying about their level and skills in Spanish, and if someone want to go to "Saxon Land" we must present that holy "TOEFL" the funny issue is that I knew a few United Statians (US students) who presented the TOEFL in my college as an experiment and they failed the exam.
I prefer the DELF-DALF exams and the diplomats given for those exams. instead of the TOEFL. (Which makes me sick all the time and I never failed even that my English is not the best around.)
<<The 'rubbish' comes from web sites based out of the Netherlands promoting the English language instruction in universities. You asked, I answered. >>
All the information showed was that it's possible to study in English at MASTERS DEGREE LEVEL in the Netherlands. You said that they were anglicising their *entire* education system. That's rubbish, and you haven't proved it.
<<In Europe French is more spoken than English... >>
Totally wrong, Bernard.
http://europa.eu.int/comm/education/policies/lang/languages/index_en.html
English is the language which is most widely "spoken" in the EU. While it is the mother tongue for 16% of the European population, a further 31% of the EU citizens speak it well enough to hold a conversation.
Apart from English, the rank order of languages more or less follows the rank order of inhabitants.
German is the mother tongue for 24% of the EU's citizens and spoken well enough as a "second" language by 8% of EU citizens.
French is spoken by 28% of the population, of which more than half are native speakers.
Italian is the fourth most widely known language - it counts as many native speakers as French, while the proportion of non-native speakers is significantly smaller (2%).
15% of the EU population speaks Spanish (11% as mother tongue and 4% as a foreign language).
Candy, what I said is very far to be tatally wrong, I'm sorry for your English pride.
"spoken" for me means being a native speaker, not knowing a few words and sentences in "globish" (international simplified english).
English is a official language in none of continental Europe countries. In continental Europe the percent of native english people is 0% (exepting some temporary anglo expats and emigrants from anglophone countries of Africa or the Caribean).
English is spoken only in two island countries (by the way, where most people don't consider themselves to be European! ;) ) : United Kingdom : 60.4 million people and Ireland : 4 millions. Total = 64.4 millions.
The most spoken language in Europe is German. Spoken in Germany : 82.4 million people, Austria : 8.1 million, switzerland : 4.5 million. you can add the german speaking minorities in Czeck republic. the total is around 95 million people far ahead English.
French is spoken only in continental Europe; In France : 60.6 million people,
Belgium : 4 million francophones, Switzerland : 2 million francophones.
Total = 66.6 million.
French is the/an official and usage language of all of the three European capitals ; Strasbourg, Luxembourg and Brussels. Flemish is also in Brussels, and luxembourger and German in Luxembourg. English is spoken in none of these capitals.
Guest ,
Flemish is not a language and therefore can't be spoken in Brussels.]
=>English is spoken in none of these capitals. <=
What a bullshit.It may not be a "culture language" but it's certainly spoken there.
" What a bullshit.It may not be a "culture language" but it's certainly spoken there. "
I'm just coming from that city, when I went In Netherlands for the two last days. English is not spoken there, except by tourists, foreign businessmen and some people who work in European administration (but most of them speak french or German). Arabic is also very spoken by a big part of Brussel's population. Brussels is a very interesting bilingual and multi-cultural city, Sander you should go there ! it is close to your country, despite that you could be hurted when hearing speaking french.
By the way Netherland is a very interesting country, with rich culture, charming old cities and ultra-modern constructions and infrastrures.
I liked living as a Amsterdamer, when biking in Amsterdam's bridges along canals. Rotterdam is also a amazing multi-cultural Dutch city, even If I don't think I'd like to live there.
=>Sander you should go there ! it is close to your country, despite that you could be hurted when hearing speaking french.<=
Dear Bernard I've been to brussels numberous times.And French language doesn't bother me.Some French persons on this forum however do.
Bernard (if you were the guest):
wow, you've proved that there are 2 million more native speakers of French than English in Europe. 2 whole million! You must be so proud. This really vindicates your point.
<<"spoken" for me means being a native speaker, not knowing a few words and sentences in "globish" (international simplified english). >>
Perhaps if you actually read the text and link I posted, we might get somewhere. Here is the relevant part:
"While it is the mother tongue for 16% of the European population, a further 31% of the EU citizens speak it well enough to hold a conversation."
WELL ENOUGH TO HOLD A CONVERSATION. Do you see that?
<<The most spoken language in Europe is German. >>
Tell me where I said it wasn't. (Hint: I didn't)
<<(by the way, where most people don't consider themselves to be European! ;) >>
In Ireland at least, that's emphatically not true. And even if it was, it doesn't alter the fact that Britain and Ireland ARE in Europe. Unless you think we should have a continent to ourselves?
Please please keep posting more stuff like this. It's hysterical! I'm sure that if you try hard enough, you'll be able to prove that nobody in the world speaks English.
<<English is spoken in none of these capitals. >>
Oh my, I didn't even SEE that part!! Bernard/Guest, thank you so much for cheering me up after a hard day at work! I nearly fell off my chair laughing!!