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Spanish should be the second official language of USA
<<So apparently Hispanics are too stupid to learn English, and we are accomodating their stupidity. >>
No more stupid than gringos who can't learn a second language. Possibly the only country in the world under such condition.
Are you trying to say that no one in "gringo" country (the USA I take it) knows a second language? Questo messaggio è stupido come il messaggio sopra del tuo. It's foolish to try to fight stupid comments with stupid comments. Non mi raccomando.
Hispanos fortalecen posición como minoría más grande de EEUU
martes 15 de agosto, 01:30 PM WASHINGTON (AP) - La creciente diversidad de Estados Unidos ha alcanzado casi cada estado de la unión americana. Según nuevas cifras difundidas el martes por la Oficina del Censo, las minorías constituyen una creciente proporción de la población en todos los estados, de Carolina del Sur hasta Arkansas, con excepción sólo de Virginia Occidental. La reforma a la política de inmigración es uno de los temas más candentes hacia las elecciones del Congreso este año, y los nuevos datos explican el porqué. Los inmigrantes, tanto legales como ilegales, tienen una creciente participación de la población total en 46 estados y el Distrito de Columbia. A nivel nacional, pasaron de ser el 11,1% de la población en 2000 al 12,4% el año pasado. Los hispanos fortalecieron su posición como la minoría más grande del país representando ahora el 14,5% de la población, en comparación con el 12,8% de la población negra. California, Nueva York, Texas y Florida tienen las poblaciones inmigrantes más grandes de la nación. Los nuevos datos muestran que los inmigrantes viajarán más allá de esos estados si hay oportunidades de trabajo. La población inmigrante de Carolina del Sur creció 47% entre el 2000 y el 2005, más que en cualquier otro estado. En cuanto a los hispanos, el aumento fue de 48% en Arkansas, la cifra más alta de toda la nación. Se define como "hispano" a aquellas personas con raíces en países hispanohablantes. Los hispanos pueden ser de cualquier raza, y la mayoría en Estados Unidos son blancos. Cuando los demógrafos se refieren a que el porcentaje de "blancos" en Estados Unidos se está encogiendo, generalmente se refieren a los blancos que no son hispanos. Aquellos residentes catalogados como "blancos" son una minoría en los estados de Hawai, Nuevo México, California y Texas, así como en el Distrito de Columbia. La proporción de personas blancas cayó por debajo del 60% en otros tres estados: Maryland, Georgia y Nevada. A nivel nacional, los blancos que no son hispanos constituyen aproximadamente el 67% de la población, en comparación con el 70% al inicio de esta década. Las cifras difundidas el martes figuran en la publicación "American Community Survey" de la Oficina del Censo. "Esta es simplemente una explosión extraordinaria de la diversidad en todo Estados Unidos", dijo William Frey, un demógrafo de la organización investigadora Brookings Institution, con sede en Washington. "Muestra que la diversidad y la inmigración van de la mano". Frey dijo que aquellos estados que atraen grandes cantidades de inmigrantes pueden considerar el hecho como "una señal de su éxito económico", aunque haya residentes que no los reciban con agrado. "En algunos lugares pasará un tiempo antes de que sean aceptados por los residentes locales", señaló Frey. "Todo lo que tenemos que hacer es ver este debate sobre la inmigración". Los datos difundidos el martes se enfocaron en raza, inmigración, educación y edad. Las cifras económicas y de vivienda se difundirán en las próximas semanas. http://mx.news.yahoo.com/s/060815/8/1uls2.html
Sigma : intéressante cette narration de la perte violente du Mexique septentrional — et de sa reconquête pacifique...
But they're not "reconquering", greg -- they just become as American as anyone else in the US after a generation. ;) And you better believe that US hispanics are some of the most patriotic Americans you'll ever meet, too -- it's kind of a weird phenomenon.
Uriel,
« And you better believe that US hispanics are some of the most patriotic Americans you'll ever meet, too -- it's kind of a weird phenomenon. » Interesting you should say that, actually. I've found that the same is often true for a large number of 'British Indians'. Especially those of Hindu and to some extent Sikh backgrounds — I tend to find that Muslims often see themselves as Muslims before anything else, whilst a lot of notional Hindus and Sikhs here are not practising anyway.
I think both greg and Benjamin have the pieces of that puzzle; it is often the first few generations of citizens who feel the most pride in their country, but it also varies by culture. For the most part, I don't think hispanics need to be first or second generation to exhibit their patriotism; it seems to just pervade them regardless of how long their families have been here. Remember, most of the ones around here have been here a long time.
Uriel, your're wrong. How can 'Hispanics' be proud of a country that excludes them socially, economically, politically and any and every other way possible? When you apply for work you have to label how different you are by putting down your a Spic. Fu*k that sh*t! Why don't they do away with that crap of having to divide you, charge you a sh*tload for car insurance. You can speak English flawlessly, call yourself James Roberts Wilkerson, buy if you were born to Spic parents, your sh*t. Fu*k that. And you are living in occupied Mexico if you reside in California, Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, Kansas, or Texas. FACE IT! All the gringos gotta learn Spanish pronto because we's a gonna be mejicanos.... AGAIN mo' fo's!!!
I have to say that I've never quite been able to understand how an area of land from one 'New World' country could possibly be said to be 'occupied' by another 'New World' country, simply because the land used to belong to the first country well over 100 years ago. But maybe it's just that I see a distinction between the 'Old World' and the 'New World' which might not really be there, or that people from the 'New World' might not see.
(That probably made no sense at all).
mexicans who live in southern united states are basically home, remember those regions belonged to mexico, these people have ancestors and history in the us, so whats the argument?
if your talking about other spanish speaking countries, then yes they are immigrants, but mexico is an exeption. dont tell me you think Los Angeles is an english name jajajaja. Los Angeles=the angels why in the world would americans name their city with a spanish name, well take history and don't be a ignorant
same with the french in quebec they are home, they have a right to be there
Alaizador, following you logic :
Arabs woud be at home in Spain too. Why did Spanish people called their some of their cities in Arab ? Madrid, Guadalajara, Alicante, Almeria, etc. Russians would at home be in Alaska Italians would be at home in all mediterraean bassin French would be at home in Detroit, St Louis, La Nouvelle Orleans, and all the middle west of the USA. Germans woud be at home in all the countries of the former roman empire (germanic invasions) Swedish people would be at home in Normany Normands would be at home in England Germans would be at home in Alsace Turks would be at home in central Europe endlessly, etc. Borders are fluctuant things - times change, you cannot claim a land as yours just because it had belongued to your country at one precise moment of the long history. Every land in its history had belongued to a lot of differents people, who kept it, or who lost it, etc.
It's absurd beyond belief to expect anyone to speak English without a reason.
These people who want native Spanish speakers to speak English in the privacy of their own homes... one, are absurd human beings who have no idea what they are asking for or why...and two are the same people who want the government to peer into people's bedrooms to see what type of sex they are having. Grow up you hate mongers. I have many Russian friends, some of them speak English... because they have a need to do so. Those who primarily talk to other Russians...they don't know English, because they don't have the need. The U.S. has survived two hundred years and more without an official langauge, and we've had many other waves of immigration besides the current one. If we were to adopt English as an official language now... then we'd be one of the most intolerant of all generations...wow, thats something to be so proud of. I presume the next step is to demand Puerto Ricans start speaking English too...and after that lets take a look at Mexico. /*sarcasm off*/ Let people speak what they want.
analizador : « same with the french in quebec they are home, they have a right to be there »
Mais les francophones sont partout chez eux au "Canada" (au sens actuel de ce terme) : Fransaskois, Franco-ontariens, Franco-yukonnais, Franco-manitobains... |