French vs German vs Spanish? Difficulty & Usefulness?

NO WONDER Chris hates French and German so much -- they are the leaders of the European world and the Brits HATE THEM BOTH.

Cretins like Chris support the Spanish-speakers because they can identify with their underdog status. That's what this all boils down to.

God, ignorant people suck.

Holy shit now youhave just gone too far. You are calling me ignorant, well you are the ignorant one to say that brits are underdogs. The english culture is the world culture now. Some people think it's because of america, but america wouldn't exist if it werent for england.

Also it depends on what you think of the culture, your own tastes. I personally hate german classical composers and writers. When compared with other ones like russian they really are soo crap.

And stop pretending like your a victime, I didn't start the attack i was just pointing out facts in response to others misguided ideas to give you the real picture.

Have you heard the saying, those hate in others what they lack in themselves. Therefore you hate spanish culture because you are envious of it.

And btw you can't apply the same principle to me because my reasons to hate german literature etc are justified. I could write a book about it but i have no time for people like you.

Quelle blague, cretin de merde!

I've "gone too far" because I called you "ignorant" after YOU called ME HORRENDOUS things such as "hoe [sic]," "bitch," and "dumb"? YOU'RE beyond ignorant -- you're a hypocritcal ARSEHOLE, as you would put it in your has-been shithole. Let me guess: you're from Milton Keynes? I'm sure... all the idiots of England congregate there.

By the way, Scheisskopf, you said:

"...but america [sic] wouldn't exist if it werent [sic] for england [sic]."

You couldn't be more wrong (what a surprise).

America wouldn't exist if it weren't for AMERICANS. Oh, and maybe the FRENCH, loser.

And one more thing, Spaz-o_Rama:

It was a GERMAN who trained the Continental Army for Washington. He then became an AMERICAN citizen after the war. You're probably too illiterate to have any idea of who he was, so I'll have to tell you:

Baron Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Wilhelm_von_Steuben.

And you're jealous -- what Brit wouldn't be jealous of German and French culture? Brits rank a nice third in the European hierarchy, so don't worry -- it could be worse -- you could be Irish. If you think about it, the Irish would make a nice comparison to the Spaniards: a few token accomplishments for good measure (but, as with the Spaniards, notably lacking in the scientific arena). There is one difference, though: the Irish have a cute accent.

French and German is not dying as what chris said. They're alive and kickin'.

Both worlds have contributed a lot to mankind. Try measuring their contributions separately and each of them would be much greater than what the Hispanic world has contributed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Wilhelm_von_Steuben

(Just in case you can't figure out to take the period out -- and it's not a "full stop," either.)

WOW, immune from your own diagnosis, are you?

YOU started by attacking present-day Germans for the atrocities of Hitler, accusing someone who has Cajun bloodlines and a REAL connection to francophone culture and heritage and attacking the sound of French. YOU started by LYING and claiming to be from LOUISIANA until I caught you in your pathetic LIE and pegged you for exactly what you are: a fucking Brit.

YOU started by calling me absolutely horrific names just because I prefer French and German to Spanish and can BACK IT UP AS TO WHY, unlike you.

And YOU STILL cannot tell this forum ANY good reasons to take Spanish other than to join in the fight of the cultural underdogs of the world.

You are beyond pathetic.

Guest:

Thank you very much for your gracious defense of me. I appreciate it -- imagine that -- manners! Oh, my...

Gallophile:

I saw the whole thing: consider yourself an unlucky recipient of the vitriole of the ignorant. The PC-types and fucking losers who hate all things great in Western civilization either a.) are self-loathing creatures with no self-esteem or b.) hate the Western giants because of a deep-seated envy.

Wasn't it great when they tried to say that I must hate Spanish because of my VERY tall and VERY blond-haired, blue-eyed Spanish-American ex-love who doesn't speak a word of Spanish? And then le Grand Cretin d'Angleterre told me I must be "jealous" of Spanish "culture"? Please!

It gets better: I'm a "racist" because I stated an absolute FACT that the biggest career-oriented reasons for taking Spanish in the United States are health care, corrections, and social work. I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT because I have a university degree in foreign languages (you can guess which ones) and I am also in academia (however, please note that, unlike Chris, I don't lie in public, international forums).

Did you also notice that these Hispanophiles think they can get away with calling German "not nice" and some other crap (as if we would even care what they think of DEUTSCH), but if *I* say that I find Spanish aesthetically unpleasing, even in a sugar-coated way, I am a "racist"?

Admit that you come here for the entertainment value! I also can't deny it: I find it fascinating (in a repugnant sort of way) that these people say the things they do with an assumedly straight face. Can you believe it?

Thank God there still remain defenders of Western culture and heritage. These United Underdogs can never take away our cultural heritage, no matter how quickly they reproduce.


P.S. The Hispanic world must be doing something right: if they can convince a BRIT that Spanish is the best language for a European to study, you can only give them credit for that.

P.P.S. There exists no more arrogant people in the world than the British. They view Americans as stupid, overgrown teenagers, when secretly they are in awe of America's greatness which has, much to their recently displayed and highly representative dismay, nothing to do with them.

<<(Just in case you can't figure out to take the period out -- and it's not a "full stop," either.)>>

Why exactly is it a "period" and NOT a "full stop"? Are you implying that you find the proper english language to be lower than your high and almighty american english? Note the langauge is called "english" which reflects what it is, "english" NOT "american".


<<"...but america [sic] wouldn't exist if it werent [sic] for england [sic]."

You couldn't be more wrong (what a surprise).

America wouldn't exist if it weren't for AMERICANS. Oh, and maybe the FRENCH, loser. >>

Ummm, i know that is wrong spelling but unlike you I am not pretty and infantile and i don't worry myself with unnecesary things. On the internet you don't have to spell right, everyone knows that.

And what is this AMERICANS? are you denying that america was founded by british? What is this some new kind of conspiracy theory? Well, if it werent for the british america would have been conquored by the spanish and guess what language you would be speaking now HAHA!

<<And you're jealous -- what Brit wouldn't be jealous of German and French culture? Brits rank a nice third in the European hierarchy, so don't worry -- it could be worse -- you could be Irish. If you think about it, the Irish would make a nice comparison to the Spaniards: a few token accomplishments for good measure (but, as with the Spaniards, notably lacking in the scientific arena). There is one difference, though: the Irish have a cute accent.>>

You are the pathetic one, look! for no reason at all you just ripped into the Irish! No one even mentioned Irland so why rip them apart. Now it's more obvious than ever that you have a superiority complex. I would expect better from an "academic".


<<Wasn't it great when they tried to say that I must hate Spanish because of my VERY tall and VERY blond-haired, blue-eyed Spanish-American ex-love who doesn't speak a word of Spanish? And then le Grand Cretin d'Angleterre told me I must be "jealous" of Spanish "culture"? Please!>>

You were the one to go on about your hispanic son in the first place. As if you were trying to make yourself not sound racist, but it turns out he isn't even hispanic exept for his name! ha! What a feeble attempt to cover your underlying anger.


<<Thank God there still remain defenders of Western culture and heritage. These United Underdogs can never take away our cultural heritage, no matter how quickly they reproduce. >>

What a noble one you are. You are doing a great service to the world, oh mighty educated german AND french speaker. Go on defending the mother lands even though no one asked you to in the first place. Your arrogance is so massive, like you are king because you know GERMAN and FRENCH. Guess what, I can do a backflip!!!!! It's just as great an acheivement depending on perspective. No one cares that you are so cultured , so go choke.

<<Admit that you come here for the entertainment value! I also can't deny it: I find it fascinating (in a repugnant sort of way) that these people say the things they do with an assumedly straight face. Can you believe it? >>

Yes it is very entertaining ripping into disilusioned idealists like you. It's time you came back down to earth, from your heeavenly academia.

By the way, i meant "petty " not "pretty". Theres noway someone so hateful and embittered like you could be pretty. Someone must have wronged you big time, probably a hispanic!

Libelle,

I didn't just call you a cunt, I called you 'quite the cunt who thinks she's god'.

But hey, they're just labels right? I mean, after you read my first response (where in fact, I did not paint you as racist.. I said your comments were) you inmediately categorized me, spoke of me as predictable, boring, race-card playing, blah blah. Inmediately labeled me when you don't know a single thing about me.

I do feel like moving on though, if you can get over the fact that I DID call you a cunt (who thinks she's god). For what is worth, I agree with you on much of what you say.. there is no denying that Germany is the leading country in Europe and will continue to be so. There is no denying the contributions Germany and France have made to scientific progress and the humanities, past, present and most likely, future.
I'm a huge fan of German philosophy.. my world would not be the same without Kant, Hegel, Nietzsche and many others, mostly the Idealists. I don't speak German, but I plan on learning it... at first I wasn't crazy about it's phonetics, but the more I listen to it the more it grows on me.. as long as it's not the Bavarian variety.. hehe. (you're right, kids speaking it is a different story). Same goes for France, volumes could be written (have been written) about the magnitude of its contributions to humanity.

I apoligize for calling you a cunt (who thinks she's god). Glad to read you actually find Hispanic people quite nice and your beef is exclusively with the language.

I would like to ask about how British, German, French, Spanish，and American consider Italian (language). I 've always wanted to know the distinct perspective（difficulty & usefulness?） from the people of different countries. Thank you very much.

This is not a thread about italian, if you wanna know bout it go someplace else (ie, make another thread). I am in the middle of a heated ripping apart of this idealistic Libelle. Shes trying to discredit me and impose her stupid beliefs on people who don't care.

America was founded first by Spaniards, later by Portuguese, Brittish, French, Dutch, Africans...etc.