French vs German vs Spanish? Difficulty & Usefulness?

<<Spanish is the second most spoken language in world, that's a fact.>>

Really, Hindi has 380 million native speakers While Spanish has only 330 million.

So what makes it the second most widely spoken.

Your Spanish is virtually unknown in Russia, Ex-Soviet Republics, and Eastern Europe while French, German, Italian in additon to English are widely spoken. Spanish is dying in Africa and the Philippines the only Spanish bastion in Asia and is now dead in Guam and Marianas which are also former Spanish possesions. So what makes it second to English in international usage?

Italian is more likely to be used in Africa than Spanish. Although not as official language but it is still widely spoken in Libya, Somalia, and Eritrea.

<<It's the third most important language in the EU. >>

Spanish the third most important language in EU? Since when did spain become as influential as France, Germany, UK, and Italy? Actually Spanish is behind Italian, Dutch, Polish, and even Swedish in terms of importance in Europe.

<<IT WILL CONTINUE TO GAIN POPULARITY>>

Sure, the moment is has proven itself in science, technology, medicine, literature, art, and architecture not just in large number. It's quality that counts not quantity.

<<Well, I only say that the GDP (Gross Domestic Product) of Mexico, Spain and Latinos in USA (10% of USA) is more than the GDP of Germany or France.>>

Don't believe this message. This garbage. Imagine Mexico with a very low per capita income than Germany and France has a higher GNP than those two countries and so as Spain which has lower per capita and population than Germany and France has higher GNP? What a big lie. This is just a product of hallucination brought by fanaticism. Maybe if you combine the GNPof those countries that will be possible.

I also read from other threads that Spain and Mexico has overtaken Russia in terms of GNP. Ridiculous!

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You made a mistake!


The Deity God: First "inteligent person" who invented pudding and cricket!

Adam and Eve Smith: The first man and woman. They all spoke English until the tower of Babel and, then, some started speaking French and Spanish for being naughty. It was decided the other languages would be created to mortify the romance languages. English just could'nt care less, the first being the first.

Abraham Nelson: In the Old Testament the father of the english nations. He crossed the ocean and destroyed lot civilizations, he invented the hamburger, for the safety of the people of United States, then jealous Japanese, decided to attack Pearl Harbour! (the biggest stock of sandwitches!), afterward this very creative man created the atom bomb at the same time as the coca-cola to assure the American hegemony!!

Jesus christ of Mary and Joseph: Who ordered the war of Iraq (also a crusade) against the Arabic naughty boys who have some oil and the saint Jerusalem! Bush his faithful pupil, continued his peacefull work!

Mary and Joseph: Mother and step father of Jesus. Scholars still argue if he was born in Manchester or Birmingham, after Marry became a famous whore of London's streets, so reappointed that Big Boss God, honored her of his come, so Jesus became the illegitimate child of God... He decided legitimate his when he was death.

What a nonsense and irrelevant message that you posted!

The people here are supposed to be objective and not subjective.

I'm beginning to think gallophylys is a disease.

The "guest" message was mine since I forgot to sign.

<<I do accept it, of course; I am saying that his father is Chinese, so he is not a full-blooded Latino.>>

First, his father is not a Chinese either. Maybe his grandfather but I'm not sure and I don't care.

But please I'm eager to hear what is a "full-blooded Latino" maybe I could learn something of worth from you.

<<We all know the Chinese people have had great successes in science.>>

In what do you base such statement ? do you have a serious study about it, or is it something that you just believe ? Is science in gens as well ?

<<Many Chinese people have emigrated to countries such as Canada and the U.S. to have more opportunity to pursue their dreams in the field of research. Are you going to say this is not true? >>

So based on your beliefs all the people with Chinese or Japanese or Filipino ancestors are not Canadians or US's ? Then I could say that there is not really Canadians since most of them are descendants from French, British, Chinese, and from lots of other places of the world. Sorry but your head is full of silly prejudices about "ethnic purity" and all those stupid things. You must be a young fellow.

<<I am not saying that there aren't good Costa Ricans doing good work in science; please don't be silly. I am only saying that the countries from which they come are not very advanced. It's no surprise, then, that Chang became an American citizen -- is it? >>

So what? Can absolutely all Germans be scientists or can all Italians be tenors or can all French be chefs ? or can all Egiptians be engineers ? Please don't be silly, things don't work that way !!

<<**Can't you get clues from my posts where I am from? I will tell you this much, in case you haven't figured it out: my roots are solely in the northern European countries, nothing southern European. That didn't stop me from studying Latin & Greek, though. >>

Well, let's see: the thread says :"French vs German vs Spanish? Difficulty & Usefulness?", Ok, you don't like
Spanish so any Spanish speaking country is discarted. You said you learned German and French so you are not German nor French. So, what the heck are you doing in this thread if none of them is your mother language?

But why don't you want to say where are you from ? I'm sure everybody would love to hear of all the contributions of your "superior race" to the world.

<<By the way, Guest, people wouldn't get so annoyed if all these Spanish-speakers/supporters weren't so attacking of others' RIGHTS to choose other languages as their favorites over Spanish. Why does THAT bother YOU so much? It seems that the facts get on your nerves as well.>>

Check out your postings, they are full of arrogant and insulting crap. What kind of reaction would you expect ?

<< And we are all STILL WAITING to hear about all of these Hispanic/Latino contributions to world culture! It just gets annoying hearing about how all the Hispanophiles try to prop themselves up on a ladder made of air.>>

I'm waiting yours!

<<What are they so proud of? If they could learn some humility it would be to their benefit. People should be proud of their cultures. Of course they should. But they should at least be able to say what they are so proud of, without trying to knock down others' cultures in the process.>>

And what are you proud of "humble man" ?

You really act like a silly and arrogant bully child.

Tito,

First of all, I think I am going to go cry in a corner because you called me a "bully." Boo-hoo! Wow... I am not a racist person at all. YOU cannot accept the FACTS that the Hispanic countries are not as advanced in many ways as many other countries. Why don't you just call me Diablo Blanco and get it over with?!? Apparently YOU have a hatred for white people, I guess. Why else would you say so many insulting things? Out of desperation to falsely advance your culture you knock down others' languages and cultures in the hopes that it will somehow elevate your own. SORRY; it doesn't work that way.

Hmm, now let's see: you ask why a person who is not a native speaker of German or French or Spanish would post to this forum: hmm, let me think: perhaps because this post about which languages are most difficult or useful to LEARN? DUH! Why are YOU here then?

Yes, Chang's father IS Chinese. And Chang DID become an American -- any theories on why this might be? It must be because the Latin countries are SO advanced and afforded him SO many opportunities, right? I am American and not at all ashamed of it, as people like YOU think I should be ! In fact, half of your neighbors are trying to make their way over here illegally. Hmm, I wonder why? Maybe because they are NOT HAPPY in their own countries?!?

By the way, I never said Spanish is not useful. Of course it is useful in some areas -- the problem is, you don't like the FACTS that Spanish is recommended for what some would perceive as less than glamorous-sounding occupations. YOU call ME a racist because I state the FACTS! And Vlad and others are right that Spanish is RARELY studied in European universities! I have close friends in France and Germany who are lawyers, doctors, and university professors -- NOT ONE of them studied Spanish! NOT ONE! They all studied the classic trio of French, German, and English. YOU are the one who is filled with hatred because you can't stand it that THIS IS REALITY.

And you still can't tell me ANYTHING that your amigos have done to contribute to world culture!

Are you asking me to mention what the French, Germans, and Americans have done? That would take PAGES and PAGES! Can you even fill ONE PAGE of what ANY of your countries have done?

Have you spent a single day in a university classroom? I am curious, because you seem to be completely clueless when it comes to understanding the concept of a person of MIXED heritage! His father is Chinese; his mother is Latina. And you don't understand that concept? Okay, Tito, I will be happy to spell it out for you:

Mama Latina + Papa Latino = Full-blooded Bambino Latino

Tu piges?

All you and your amigos can do is call someone else a "racist" when they state FACTS! And teh world is waiting for your big list of contributions.

YOU are the racist and arrogant posters -- most of your compadres seem to hate all white people, whether they be from Europe or North America. YOU attack the cultures of these countries.

<<Many Chinese people have emigrated to countries such as Canada and the U.S. to have more opportunity to pursue their dreams in the field of research. Are you going to say this is not true? >>

TITO SAID: <<<So based on your beliefs all the people with Chinese or Japanese or Filipino ancestors are not Canadians or US's ? Then I could say that there is not really Canadians since most of them are descendants from French, British, Chinese, and from lots of other places of the world. Sorry but your head is full of silly prejudices about "ethnic purity" and all those stupid things. You must be a young fellow. >>

***Being an American, I am hardly one to care about "ethnic purity" -- nice, desperate try, though!

No, they COME TO AMERICA and CANADA because of our amazing political systems, that's why. And although the British arguably haven't contributed as much to world culture in terms of art, cuisine, and (classical) music, they were the most influential modern European culture in terms of government, and the U.S. and Canada have much to thank them for. And we do. Think of all the amazing political philosophers who came from Britain, including John Locke, Edmund Burke, et al. My point is, when the Asian people you mentioned come to North America, they often CHOOSE to become CITIZENS of our respective countries because they see advantages here that they didn't see elsewhere. So they are just as American as I am (or as Canadian as my neighbors).

Poor, poor Libelle. So naive, so ignorant, knowing so little of world culture and yet wanting us to believe she knows it all.

I suppose this may come as a bit of a shock:

"The Parliament of Catalonia, dating from the 11th century, may have been the first parliament in continental Europe, though it is predated by the parliaments of the Isle of Man and Iceland."

That is as far as government is concerned. By the way, in case your geography is as poor as your history, Catalonia happens to be in Spain.

"From Spain," like your compadres, all you can do is call people names who disagree with you. You are just as desperate as the others.

The THING, as it was called, was a Scandinavian body (once again, those evil northern Europeans!) and was the first parliament of the world. Did I say England had the first parliament? YOU are so ignorant. It is truly incredible. Am I surprised? No...

By the way, since England is not even a part of continental Europe, what was the point of your post? Just to call me names out of desperation.

By the way, "From Spain," it's hilarious that you think I care what you think.

I have only seen one or two of your associates who can hold an intelligent conversation. YOU are not one of them.

And one more thing, my history is far from poor. Point out one mistake I made in history -- I did not make one, so you won't be able to. You're just another one who is so laughably ignorant.

<<YOU cannot accept the FACTS that the Hispanic countries are not as advanced in many ways as many other countries. >>

I absolutely accept that fact, so what ? I think I am going to go cry in a corner because we are not as advanced as United Statians, Boo-hoo!

<<Why don't you just call me Diablo Blanco and get it over with?!? >>

"Diablo Blanco" ? hahaha!!! you see too many movies!! It has to be your best repertory in Spanish, oh yes plus 'amigo'. Brilliant!!

<<Apparently YOU have a hatred for white people>>

"White people" ? another level to qualify people ? and you insist you are not a racist ? Oh sure! You must hate all black people. Oh yeah! I forgot they came from Africa and then they don't count!!

<<Hmm, now let's see: you ask why a person who is not a native speaker of German or French or Spanish would post to this forum: hmm, let me think: perhaps because this post about which languages are most difficult or useful to LEARN? DUH! Why are YOU here then? >>

Well, there is an enormous difference, one of those languages is my mother language unlike you! I recommend you not trying to learn Spanish since it's waaaay difficult.

<<Yes, Chang's father IS Chinese.>>

No he's not! If you were not living in a monolingual and ethnocentric, country you would know why.

<<And Chang DID become an American >>

So ethnocentric that you all believe that the name of your country is America.

<<-- any theories on why this might be? >>

Oh come on! Even you could conclude the reasons. The US always makes things easier for the people they need. There is an endless list of foreign geniuses who have worked for the US. The US is what it is thanks to them.

<<It must be because the Latin countries are SO advanced and afforded him SO many opportunities, right?>>

That's the best part. We don't need to be advanced, if there is a northern neighbour who pays in cash for all !

"<<I am American and not at all ashamed of it, as people like YOU think I should be ! >>

Nope! you are not "American"! your roots are solely in the northern European countries, so you don't count!

<<In fact, half of your neighbors are trying to make their way over here illegally. Hmm, I wonder why? Maybe because they are NOT HAPPY in their own countries?!? >>

So what ? your family did exactly the same! you are the result of the immigration, Yuck!

<<the problem is, you don't like the FACTS that Spanish is recommended for what some would perceive as less than glamorous-sounding occupations. >>

You don't know what you are talking about. Even Japanese, Korean and Chinese are learning Spanish to trade with Latin America and leaving the old way through English. English is the language of trading and while the US buy everything English will exist, no more no less.

The problem is that you don't like the fact that that Spanish is gaining ground no matter all your tantrums.

<<Mama Latina + Papa Latino = Full-blooded Bambino Latino >>

Now, know it all, what is a latino ? go on ! this is getting better!

<<Tu piges? >>

I can't understand that. If it is Spanish you need a good class. No! it's too hard to master, forget it!

<<YOU are the racist and arrogant posters -- most of your compadres seem to hate all white people, whether they be from Europe or North America. YOU attack the cultures of these countries.>>

Wow! I have to add 'compadre' to your vocabulary, girl, you are good for languages, indeed ! by the way don't you have a good picture of yourself by the pool or something?

<< they COME TO AMERICA and CANADA because of our amazing political systems, that's why. >>

Amazing political system ? Oh Yes! I agree!. An absolute ASSHOLE was elected president even if he didn't have all the votes and was helped by his brother in Florida two times. Maybe you are talking about the beautiful Canada.

<<YOU are the racist and arrogant posters -- most of your compadres seem to hate all white people, whether they be from Europe or North America. YOU attack the cultures of these countries.
And you still can't tell me ANYTHING that your amigos have done to contribute to world culture! >>

Tell me what yours have done. Do you really think that there is a culture in the American continent except for indigenous ? Do you really think that baseball, Superman and Mickey Mouse is culture, that hamburgers, fries, snacks, apple pie and hot dogs are refined cuisine ? LOL!!!!!

<<And although the British arguably haven't contributed as much to world culture in terms of art, cuisine, and (classical) music, they were the most influential modern European culture in terms of government, and the U.S. and Canada have much to thank them for. And we do. Think of all the amazing political philosophers who came from Britain, including John Locke, Edmund Burke, et al. >>

Blah, blah, blah, you keep dreaming!

<<My point is, when the Asian people you mentioned come to North America, they often CHOOSE to become CITIZENS of our respective countries because they see advantages here that they didn't see elsewhere. >>

That's obvious, everybody will try to take advantage of it to get a gain.

<<So they are just as American as I am... >>

Nope! you are not, you don't count !

Latin Americans are inferior to both asians and whites in terms of intelligence. I just read in the paper that the ACLU is threatening to sue the Tustin Unified school district for having a much lower percentage of lations enrolled in the gifted program than the percentages of whites and asians, and I think it's ridiculous. The reason that it's like that isn't discrimination. It simply due to the fact that latinos have lower intelligence on average. I too would like to see how many accomplishments have been made by latimos.

Who made such study ? the Ku Klux Klan ? Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!! Mmmm...I love me!!!

<<I'm beginning to think gallophylys is a disease.>>

That's what you think From Spain or D'Enfer. Just because i don't agree with your fellow fanatics you call me a disease. Maybe youhave a parasitic worm inside your brain that cause you to alter your behavior from being normal. That is being a hispanic fanatic thinking that the Hispanic world has a tight grip oj the entire world.

Well, they would fiercely resist you because you haven't proven anything and there's really somethin wrong with your culture as seen on Hispanic soap operas. There's always a class discrimination in the hispanic world that you tend to look down and block the advancement of those who belong to lower classes.