Italian & Portugese Lexical Similarities

Guest   Tue May 20, 2008 6:48 pm GMT
Are the countries: Mexico, Paraguay and Bolivia less significant than Argentina, Uruguay and Chile? Is their anger and resentment toward Spain less worthy or valid because of their higher indigenous populations? Your faulty line of reasoning.
Guest   Tue May 20, 2008 6:51 pm GMT
<<Governo uruguaio torna obrigatório ensino do português>>

Uruguay is the first, Spain comes next. Welcome to Brazilian Empire!
Guest   Tue May 20, 2008 6:54 pm GMT
Welcome to the Portuguese speaking Empire! After all, the Portuguese language was born in Portugal ;-)
Guest   Tue May 20, 2008 7:49 pm GMT
Brazil tried to conquer Uruguay in the past and they were defeated. Uruguay is small but proud, so be careful.
Marinheiro   Sun May 25, 2008 1:33 am GMT
Uruguaiana was conquered and is a part of Brazil !
Have you heard about the Tordesillas Treaty Line when we smashed the Castilians in South America ?
Portuguese was born in the Minho and not in the rest of Portugal, Lisboa and the Algarve were conquests just like Brazil and nowadays the bulk of the Portuguese population and language are in Brazil, the center of the Empire since 1808 !
Guest   Sun May 25, 2008 1:56 am GMT
Uruguay is not part of Brazil, didn't you heard of a small independent country called Uruguay , near to South Brazil? Brazil tried to reach to Mar de Plata and failed miserably. They provoked Uruguay to split off from Argentina, but nothing more. As for The Treaty of Tordesillas , it was much more benefical for Spain than for Portugal. You are completely wrong ,Portugal couldn't smash Spain because this country was much more powerful and influential. Even the Pope at those times was a Spaniard. At first instance Portugal was not allowed to explore the Brazilian coasts because this part of the Earth fell under the Spanish Hemisphere (West for Spain and East for Portugal) but the Portuguese cried to the Spanish Pope until he and the Spanish Crown consented Portugal to colonize North East Brazil. They were very friendly to the Portuguese but now I see that they teach you in Portugal that this act of generosity was a victory of Portugal. Pathetic. Anyway Spain is nowadays the main foreign investor in Brazil, so Spain has more ties with Brazil than Portugal.
Guest   Sun May 25, 2008 11:55 am GMT
What a load of nonsense. This is becoming pathetic.
Guest   Sun May 25, 2008 11:57 am GMT
Oh, when the trolls go marching in
Oh, when the trolls go marching in
Lord, how I want to be in that number
When the trolls go marching in
Guest   Mon May 26, 2008 5:26 pm GMT
<<Anyway Spain is nowadays the main foreign investor in Brazil, so Spain has more ties with Brazil than Portugal.>>

These ties will grow stronger and stronger till eventually Spanish culture (and language) will succumb to the Brazilian one. I'm sure that in the near future Brazilian Portuguese will assimilate Spanish both in Latin America and in Iberian Peninsula.
Cristiano Ronaldo.   Mon May 26, 2008 6:05 pm GMT
That may be plausible in Latin America, but I can't conceive how such a ridiculous country like Portugal would eventually assimilate a country five times bigger, both in territory and population.
Guest   Mon May 26, 2008 6:11 pm GMT
Portugal no es ningun país ridiculo. ¿Qué te hace pensar eso? . Además ¿no ves que el comentario de arriba no tiene sentido?
Guest   Mon May 26, 2008 7:10 pm GMT
I think written Portugese is really similar to written Italian. Look to ingredients of things you have in home.
Guest   Tue May 27, 2008 12:04 am GMT
This is all really amusing :-) The thing is that, today the Portuguese language in the world stands a grand testament of the specialness of the small European country called Portugal, known and respected the world over. Nothing, and no one, can ever minimize that.

Brazil, as an emerging global economic giant (8th strongest economy of the world), now has the honour and responsibility of safeguarding and promoting the Portuguese language. In addition to its official place in many important world organizations, Portuguese will soon become an official language of the United Nations. Viva Lusofonia!!
zatsu   Tue May 27, 2008 4:44 am GMT
<<I think written Portugese is really similar to written Italian.>>

First time I heard that =D
Guest   Tue May 27, 2008 4:57 am GMT
<<US is much more united than Brazil. The 1st thing a Brazilian person tells you while introducing himself/himself is something like this: I'm of Spanish origin or I'm of Italian origin, or I'm of Polish origin. Brazilians are obsessed with origin. Americans may have variable origins, but they are Americans, and they never consider themselves English, German, Italian...Brazilians always value foreign things. Americans respect themselves. That's all.>>


Nothing could be further from the truth. I don't think anybody is more obsessed with origin and race/identity than Americans. People here, go around calling themselvs Italian, Irish, Puertorican, etc...even if they're generations removed and have never been.

Also the tendency to place ''value" on foreign things also exists in the United States. I think its just that people find their home country to be uninteresting, and consider anything foreign to be 'exotic'.