Vive Le Quebec libre

Sander   Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:31 pm GMT
I guess you mean the English and not the Americans.
Guest   Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:50 pm GMT
Dear guest,


Well if you consider the italians form that point of view, you must be racist, are you?
Guest   Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:55 pm GMT
Italians are a race? Since when?!
Guest   Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:57 pm GMT
No it is not, we do not have the concept of races in our culture, the same in France. We do not consider people by races like nazis and anglos do.
Guest   Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:05 pm GMT
You're more into Italian fascism and French surenderism are you?
About French Surrender   Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:41 pm GMT
French surenderism are you?

Check this page about "French surendism":

http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/allies2.htm


This image of a French military magazine is also great:

http://hometown.aol.com/imdemonspeedin/images/soldier%20of%20surrender.jpg

Quotes

French history, ....

"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure." --- Jacques Chirac, President of France.

"As far as France is concerned, you're right." --- Rush Limbaugh 5
The history of defeat, ....

"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." --- General George S. Patton 5

The history of surrender, ...

"It's no surprise the French won't help us get Saddam Hussein out of Iraq. They didn't help us get Germany out of France, either. Still, it's essential for them to join us in the war against Iraq. They can teach the Iraqis how to surrender." --- Jay Leno 5

..., great French Generals, ....

"Did you see the new bomb the government came up with? It weights 21,000 pounds. The Air Force tested this bomb in Florida and the bomb blast was so strong at Disneyworld 25 French tourists surrendered." --- Jay Leno 5

..., great French Admirals, ...
"French troops arrived in Afghanistan last week, and not a minute too soon. The French are acting as advisers to the Taliban, to teach them how to surrender properly." --- Jay Leno 5

..., great French fighter aces, ....

"Finally, this week the French soldiers have showed up in Afghanistan. Figures - just like the French to show up after the hard work has been done." --- Jay Leno 5

..., great French war hero's, ....
"Army personnel in Kuwait unloaded a dozen faulty tanks that only go in reverse. Tanks that only go in reverse - they've been repackaged and sold to France." --- Craig Kilborn 5

.., French medal of honor, ...
"What do you expect from a culture and a nation that exerted more of its national will fighting against Disney World and Big Macs than the Nazis?" --- Dennis Miller

.., French medal of honour, ...
"They've taken their own precautions against al-Qa'ida. To prepare for an attack, each Frenchman is urged to keep duct tape, a white flag, and a three-day supply of mistresses in the house." --- Argus Hamilton

... great French military successes, ...

"Do you know it only took Germany three days to conquer France in WWII? And that's because it was raining."
--- John Xereas, Manager, DC Improv.

.. the road to victory, ...

"The French are always reticent to surrender to the wishes of their friends and always more than willing to surrender to the wishes of their enemies." -- unattributed 5
..., great French battle plans, ....
Guest   Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:51 pm GMT
"What do you expect from a culture and a nation that exerted more of its national will fighting against Disney World and Big Macs than the Nazis?" --- Dennis Miller

During one of the many wars that the French and the British fought and the French usually lost, the French just happened to capture a British Major. An officer brought the Major to the French general for interrogation. The French general began ridiculing the Major for wearing "that stupid red tunic." The French general said, "Why to you wear that red uniform, it makes it easy for us to shoot you." The British major replied, "If I do get wounded, the blood will not show, and my soldiers will not get scared." The French general said, "That is a very good idea," The Frenchy turned to his orderly and said, "From now on all French officers will wear brown pants."
Guest   Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:01 pm GMT
Guest   Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:04 pm GMT
The original French Army knife.
No coward should be without it !


http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/images/french_knife.gif
Guest   Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:17 am GMT
COMPLETE MILITARY HISTORY OF FRANCE


Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when NOT led by a Frenchman."

Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars -- when fighting Italians.

Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.

Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flower pots as chapeaux.

The Dutch War - Tied.

War of the Augsburg League / King William's War / French and Indian War -Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved ever since.

American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.

The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu.

Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

War Against Greenpeace - Lost. 1985, the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior prepares to sail for Moruroa Atoll for a major campaign against French nuclear testing. Agents of the DGSE [secret service] bomb and sink the ship in Auckland Harbor. I tree-hugger sans tree drowns. Six weeks later agents Prieur and Mafart plead guilty to charges of manslaughter and willful damage. They get sentences of 10 years and 7 years. French Prime Minister Fabius admits to state terrorism on TV.

War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in
a McDonald's.
Guest   Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:22 am GMT
http://www.ynet.co.il/PicServer/01012003/242659/333_wh.jpg

Interesting finding about the French. Viva la internet!!
Dan   Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:05 am GMT
Ingore those trolls

<That's absolutely ridiculous why don't you Anglos leave Canada. Canada was a French creation remember? England stole Canada from France.>

What you saying is ridiculous I hope you not implying that the other provinces other from Quebec should be included. The other provinces were settled by the English not the French.
Guest   Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:53 am GMT
<England stole Canada from France>

Oh yeah and how the Europeans stole land from the Native peoples around the world. Are you stupid just blame it on the English? You have blood on your hands too.
Guest   Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:51 am GMT
Oh yeah and how the Europeans stole land from the Native peoples around the world. Are you stupid just blame it on the English? You have blood on your hands too.>

No, the stupid are you because the English killed the natives without mercy (like they did in all their colonies) and the French made alliances with the natives.

"The French maintained good terms with the First Nations."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Brunswick


What you saying is ridiculous I hope you not implying that the other provinces other from Quebec should be included. The other provinces were settled by the English not the French. >

The French settled and explored not only Québec in the actual "Canada":

Acadia (in French Acadie) was the name given by the French to a territory in northeastern North America which includes parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces and modern-day New England stretching as far south as Philadelphia. The actual specification by the French government for the territory refers to lands bordering the Atlantic coast, roughly between the 40th and 46th parallels. Later, the territory was divided into the British colonies which were to become American states and Canadian provinces.

The territory's first European colonists, who would later become known as Acadians, were French subjects primarily from the Pleumartin to Poitiers in the Vienne département of west-central France. The first French settlement was established by Pierre Dugua, Sieur de Monts, Governor of Acadia under the authority of King Henry IV, on Saint Croix Island in 1604. The following year, the settlement was moved across the Bay of Fundy to Port Royal after a difficult winter on the island and deaths due to scurvy. In 1608, many of the settlers followed Samuel de Champlain north to found New France in modern day Quebec City.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acadia

The explorer John Cabot visited present-day Cape Breton in 1497. The first European settlement in Nova Scotia was established by French lead by Pierre Dugua, Sieur de Monts. They established the first capital for the colony Acadia at Port Royal in 1604 at the head of the Annapolis Basin.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_Scotia

The first known European exploration of present-day New Brunswick was by French explorer Jacques Cartier in 1534, who discovered and named the Baie des Chaleurs in northern New Brunswick for its warm waters. The next French contact was in 1604, when Sieur de Monts sailed into Passamaquoddy Bay and set up a camp for the winter on an island at the mouth of the St. Croix River. 36 out of the 87 members of the party died of scurvy by winter's end. Other French settlements and seigneuries were founded along the Saint John River and the North Shore through the 17th century, including Fort La Tour (present-day Saint John) and St. Peter, founded by Nicolas Denys at the site of present-day Bathurst. New Brunswick became part of the French territory of Acadia. The French maintained good terms with the First Nations.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Brunswick



Before the arrival of the Europeans, the region was inhabited both by Algonquian (Ojibwa, Cree and Algonquin) and Iroquoian (Iroquois and Huron) tribes. The French explorer Étienne Brûlé explored part of the area in 1610-12. The English explorer Henry Hudson sailed into Hudson Bay in 1611 and claimed the area for England, but Samuel de Champlain reached Lake Huron in 1615 and French missionaries began to establish posts along the Great Lakes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario


Pierre Gaultier de Varennes, Sieur de la Vérendrye, visited the Red River Valley in the 1730s as part of opening the area for French exploration and exploitation. An important French-Canadian population (Franco-Manitobains) still lives in Manitoba, especially in the Saint-Boniface district of Winnipeg.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manitoba



The island of Newfoundland was nearly conquered by New France explorer Pierre Le Moyne d'Iberville in the 1690s.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_and_Labrador


http://www.tlfq.ulaval.ca/axl/francophonie/images/Nlle-France-mapM.jpg


http://www.diocesequebec.qc.ca/histoire/images/carte_nouvelle_france.jpg



And by the way Labrador was taken from Québec territory in 1927 without its consent !!!!!

And it will rejoin Québec after independence.

Even the name Canada was taken away from the New France, couldn't you think in a better name at least to show some respect?
Guest   Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:13 am GMT
>>Even the name Canada was taken away from the New France, couldn't you think in a better name at least to show some respect? <<

No, "Canada" was an Algonquian word that both the French and English used.

>>England stole Canada from France<<

Then France stole Canada from the native Indians.