Vive Le Quebec libre
<Oh yeah and how the Europeans stole land from the Native peoples around the world. Are you stupid just blame it on the English? You have blood on your hands too.>
No, the stupid are you because the English killed the natives without mercy (like they did in all their colonies) and the French made alliances with the natives.
"The French maintained good terms with the First Nations." >
While Canada often depicts its society as being a very progressive, tolerant, diverse, and multicultural nation, Canada also has its own history of racism. Although the historical records are not very clear at the very beginnings of the country's history, one can argue that the first instance of racism in Canada occurred during the first trip of Jacques Cartier in 1534, when he brought two Iroquois more or less against their will back to France, which greatly amused the French royal court. Later, although still not very clearly recognised in the mainstream culture (where it is more seen as territorial wars), much racism occurred between the French and the First Nations people, between First Nations tribes themselves (fuelled by alliances of certain tribes with the French, and others with the English), between the English and the First Nations, and between the English and the French. Although the country's history was influenced greatly by these wars, the relationships between all those ethnicities has changed a lot since the beginning of European settlement in Canada.
POINT: FRENCH ARE AS MUCH AS GULITY OF RACISM AS THE ENGLISH - DON'T DENIAL THE FACTS
Quebec's Indian people remain overwhelmingly opposed to separation from Canada and deeply distrust the separatist government of the province. Despite the Quebec Premier's recent overtures to the leaders of the Cree and Inuit nations, surveys indicate that most of Quebec's 60,000 Indians would favor partition of the province in the event of Quebec's separation from Canada. Indian leaders maintain that a sovereign Quebec would treat Indians as another ethnic minority instead of as sovereign nations within the territory of the province. To address these sentiments and respond to a pending lawsuit, in 1998 the Quebec government agreed with the Cree and Mohawk tribes to initiate negotiations regarding longstanding grievances over timber resources, public rights of way on tribal lands, and management of development in the James Bay region. In 1999 Quebec gave the Mohawks increased fiscal rights and powers, and the first summit in 11 years between Quebec's First Nations and the provincial government was held to establish a permanent policy forum to resolve ongoing issues. During 1999 the Government focused on negotiations over a commission to set up a political entity (Nunavik) for Quebec's Inuit. The commission, in accordance with an agreement signed in 1999, has Inuit, Quebec, and federal representatives. In September 2000, the James Bay Crees challenged the authority of the Nunavik Commission on the basis of overlapping land claims. The Commission presented its final report in March, recommending a new form of autonomous government for Nunavik specially designed to protect the Inuit language and culture.
POINT: FRENCH ARE AS MUCH AS GULITY OF RACISM AS THE ENGLISH - DON'T DENIAL THE FACTS >
POINT: DON'T DENY THE FACTS TOO. THE FRENCH WERE IN NORTH AMERICA SO MUCH BEFORE THE ENGLISH LANDED IN AMERICAN SOIL. THUS CANADA IS A FRENCH CREATION NOT AN ENGLISH ONE. (THE ENGLISH WERE VERY HAPPY IN SEIZING A COLONY THAT DIDN'T BELONG TO THEM).
<POINT: FRENCH ARE AS MUCH AS GULITY OF RACISM AS THE ENGLISH - DON'T DENIAL THE FACTS >
POINT: DON'T DENY THE FACTS TOO. THE FRENCH WERE IN NORTH AMERICA SO MUCH BEFORE THE ENGLISH LANDED IN AMERICAN SOIL. THUS CANADA IS A FRENCH CREATION NOT AN ENGLISH ONE. (THE ENGLISH WERE VERY HAPPY IN SEIZING A COLONY THAT DIDN'T BELONG TO THEM).>
So far in Antimoon I personally haven't seen our denial of that fact. (If you would like to go from page 1 of this thread it's been mainly one sided agruements).
New France was renamed "Quebec" and formally delivered to England by the Treaty of Paris, 1763. Curiously, neither side really wanted the colony because it was considered too expensive to maintain. If that was a seizing a colony I think you should take that up with France.
<POINT: FRENCH ARE AS MUCH AS GULITY OF RACISM AS THE ENGLISH - DON'T DENIAL THE FACTS >
POINT: DON'T DENY THE FACTS TOO.>
Fricking ironic you idiot. Judging your desperate stance you running out of agruements.
Fricking idiot. You have no arguments or "agruements"!
Fricking ironic you idiot. Judging your desperate stance you running out of agruements.
That's what you think there are thousandos of arguments and reasons that explain why Québec will become independent as you can see through more than 1300 posts in this tread alone.
Think what you want idiot.
So far in Antimoon I personally haven't seen our denial of that fact. (If you would like to go from page 1 of this thread it's been mainly one sided agruements).
New France was renamed "Quebec" and formally delivered to England by the Treaty of Paris, 1763. Curiously, neither side really wanted the colony because it was considered too expensive to maintain. If that was a seizing a colony I think you should take that up with France.
Read a non anglo history book, maybe it will open your stubborn mind, and you will see the other side of the coin. It's useless to discuss this with a sick nationalism like you.
Who's the one with the sick nationalism? You're the one claiming that England Stole new France from France which according to you didn't stole it from the natives? What's that than? Nationalism in regard to collonialism if you ask me.
<Read a non anglo history book, maybe it will open your stubborn mind, and you will see the other side of the coin. It's useless to discuss this with a sick nationalism like you.>
By referring to me as an 'Anglo' being judgemental is stubborn itself. So far from I seen from this thread the other side of the coin I swear to God I smell nationalism on that side.
Enough is enough people. Mistakes were commited on both sides. What suprises me is that the whole sega is blamed on Anglo-Canadians. There is blame on your side of your 'coin' too.
Another thing is protecting one culture and language is a concept I respect. But you shouldn't blame it on Anglo culture it's up to the people of Quebec to upheld their culture and language. You can't just walled yourself in and hope for the best.
Thanks to Sander and his Anglo proganda ministy working overtime to corrupt this forum. I think the moderater must take action against those Nationalists especially Sander.
He is a racist and a person with typical Germanic narrow mindedness.
And all Nico can do is pull out the race card. Without his petty personal attacks and racism against Sander, Nico has nothing.
I think Sander can be extreme. Many times he has reason, but he takes it to an extent I do not care for or support.
Nevertheless saying things like this, "typical Germanic narrow mindedness," makes you sound no less racist and makes your entire statement sound extremely hypocritical. And he isn't even German at that.
I also don't think the corruption started with "Anglo propoganda". I distinctly remember this board taking a turn for the worse when the "Latin brotherhood" stirred a coalition against the "evil Anglos." Who is persecuting who? You can't blame people for trying to fight back, even if it might not be in the best way.
=>He is a racist and a person with typical Germanic narrow mindedness.<=
'Typical' .That's what matters for you isn't it? You want to live in a world of stereotypes. Evil Germanics and their even more evil leaders the Anglo-Saxons versus the enlightened Latins who are the last refuge of civilization. You're unable to think out of that box. He's Italian thus your friend she's Danish so she's your sworn enemy, no further discussion.
Quebec was stolen by the ''evil Anglo-Saxons'' , that the French themselves raped,stole and conquered is forgotten in the process and must never be mentioned.Tunnel vision.
You, and people like you, are afraid of the real world, the one where everyone is an individual ... shame you're not willing to see that.