Well, so was Vietnam. What's your point?
Vive Le Quebec libre
Just for the record.
=>Sander Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:29 am GMT<=
Wasn't me.I already PM'd Greg about this.
=>Sander Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:29 am GMT<=
Wasn't me.I already PM'd Greg about this.
Unfortunately for many of the wannabe revolutionary sympathizers with “the struggle for Quebec independence”, reality is a lot less dramatic. Quebecois are not oppressed in any way and are far from certain whether they want independence.
From a recent opinion poll reported in the Globe and Mail.
Asked how Quebeckers would vote if they faced a question similar to the one posed in 1995, 48 per cent said they would opt for the Yes side, compared with 47 per cent who would vote No. The other five per cent didn't know.
Note> That question read: “Do you agree that Quebec should become sovereign, after having made a formal offer to Canada for a new economic and political partnership, within the scope of the Bill Respecting the Future of Quebec, and of the agreement signed on June 12, 1995.”
(The June 12 agreement pledged that the Parti Québécois, the Bloc Québécois and Action Démocratique du Québec work together to achieve such a partnership with the rest of Canada after a Yes vote.)
And on a related question of whether Quebeckers are in favour of holding another referendum, 49 per cent said they were while 48 per cent were not. Moreover, 59 per cent of Quebeckers surveyed said they believed the Yes forces would win the next referendum. In the rest of the country, 49 per cent of Canadians believed a majority of Quebeckers would vote Yes in another referendum while 44 per cent said they would vote No.
The poll found that 66 per cent of Quebeckers and 68 per cent of the rest of the country support the requirement for a clear question. When asked whether they would vote “to secede from Canada to become an independent country,” 53 per cent said No, compared with only 43 per cent who said Yes. Another 4 per cent didn't know.
Fifty per cent of Quebeckers said a simple majority of 50 per cent plus one is enough for the province to leave Canada, while 74 per cent in the rest of Canada said it was not. Of those who said a simple majority was not enough, 54 per cent said the bar should be set at more than 70 per cent. That said, the Canadian voting public appears sanguine about the possibility of a breakup, with 76 per cent telling pollsters they'd be willing to negotiate a new partnership with an independent Quebec.
On the question of whether Quebeckers feel more sovereigntist or more federalist over the past 10 years, 60 per cent said they haven't changed their views. Twenty-three 23 per cent said they were more likely to support sovereignty, while 16 per cent were more prone to the federalist argument.
From a recent opinion poll reported in the Globe and Mail.
Asked how Quebeckers would vote if they faced a question similar to the one posed in 1995, 48 per cent said they would opt for the Yes side, compared with 47 per cent who would vote No. The other five per cent didn't know.
Note> That question read: “Do you agree that Quebec should become sovereign, after having made a formal offer to Canada for a new economic and political partnership, within the scope of the Bill Respecting the Future of Quebec, and of the agreement signed on June 12, 1995.”
(The June 12 agreement pledged that the Parti Québécois, the Bloc Québécois and Action Démocratique du Québec work together to achieve such a partnership with the rest of Canada after a Yes vote.)
And on a related question of whether Quebeckers are in favour of holding another referendum, 49 per cent said they were while 48 per cent were not. Moreover, 59 per cent of Quebeckers surveyed said they believed the Yes forces would win the next referendum. In the rest of the country, 49 per cent of Canadians believed a majority of Quebeckers would vote Yes in another referendum while 44 per cent said they would vote No.
The poll found that 66 per cent of Quebeckers and 68 per cent of the rest of the country support the requirement for a clear question. When asked whether they would vote “to secede from Canada to become an independent country,” 53 per cent said No, compared with only 43 per cent who said Yes. Another 4 per cent didn't know.
Fifty per cent of Quebeckers said a simple majority of 50 per cent plus one is enough for the province to leave Canada, while 74 per cent in the rest of Canada said it was not. Of those who said a simple majority was not enough, 54 per cent said the bar should be set at more than 70 per cent. That said, the Canadian voting public appears sanguine about the possibility of a breakup, with 76 per cent telling pollsters they'd be willing to negotiate a new partnership with an independent Quebec.
On the question of whether Quebeckers feel more sovereigntist or more federalist over the past 10 years, 60 per cent said they haven't changed their views. Twenty-three 23 per cent said they were more likely to support sovereignty, while 16 per cent were more prone to the federalist argument.
David,
First my name is Sander, with one 's'. Secondly, I understand English perfectly so please use English instead of that translator Dutch, translators you see, don't work with Dutch.
First my name is Sander, with one 's'. Secondly, I understand English perfectly so please use English instead of that translator Dutch, translators you see, don't work with Dutch.
Referendums and special consideration for languages is almost the last thing on the average person's mind who is trying to get by in Quebec. If French speaking Quebeckers really cared (most don't including YES voters), they'd have had an independent province by now. There will be one more referendum because the outcome will be a more decisive NO and game over. More of the YES voters will be educated to know better.
Sigma and greg
I think you are meddling with things that aren't your business.
I think you are meddling with things that aren't your business.
David,
First my name is Sander, with one 's'. Secondly, I understand English perfectly so please use English instead of that translator Dutch, translators you see, don't work with Dutch.
Sorry about that. I can actually speak Dutch better than any other language besides English, but I just didn't want to say the wrong thing by accident and make a fool of myself, (although I apperently did by using the online translator) lol
Regards,
David
First my name is Sander, with one 's'. Secondly, I understand English perfectly so please use English instead of that translator Dutch, translators you see, don't work with Dutch.
Sorry about that. I can actually speak Dutch better than any other language besides English, but I just didn't want to say the wrong thing by accident and make a fool of myself, (although I apperently did by using the online translator) lol
Regards,
David
That was me that posted the above message. I forgot to sign. BTW, Sander, can you explain to me what the translator did wrong when I had "Why do you always argue Sander?" into Dutch? Was it a grammatical error or something? I haven't really taught myself Dutch grammar yet, so when the translator trnaslated it, I couldn't really tell if it was in the right context or not.
Thanks,
David
Thanks,
David
David,
About your 'Dutch' message.You asked me:
=>Sanders, waarom houdt u stellen bij?<=
which translates as 'Sanders, why keep you put with?' and you wanted to ask me: "Why do you always argue Sander?" which should be, 'Sander waarom ruzie jij altijd'.
Another thing,
How can you "actually speak Dutch better than any other language besides English" when you haven't, "really taught yourself Dutch grammar yet" ? Explain yourself please ...
About your 'Dutch' message.You asked me:
=>Sanders, waarom houdt u stellen bij?<=
which translates as 'Sanders, why keep you put with?' and you wanted to ask me: "Why do you always argue Sander?" which should be, 'Sander waarom ruzie jij altijd'.
Another thing,
How can you "actually speak Dutch better than any other language besides English" when you haven't, "really taught yourself Dutch grammar yet" ? Explain yourself please ...