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• How do you translate "on my way home" into French? 4 Mon May 19, 2008 3:04 pm
• Hoy las ciencias adelantan que es una barbaridad 3 Mon May 19, 2008 3:02 pm
• Spirit of Unity in Europe ? (pages: 1 2 ) 20 Mon May 19, 2008 2:47 pm
• Turkish is easy? 13 Mon May 19, 2008 10:38 am
• What Languge represents Asia BEST? (pages: 1 2 ) 22 Mon May 19, 2008 2:10 am
• How many...? (pages: 1 2 ) 19 Sun May 18, 2008 10:00 pm
• ITALIAN MAFIA - Diallect in Brooklyn 12 Sun May 18, 2008 2:31 pm
• Que es mi barco mi tesoro 0 Sun May 18, 2008 1:38 pm
• Languages in India 1 Sun May 18, 2008 10:26 am
• Hebrew constructed? 8 Sun May 18, 2008 10:22 am
• Mutual Intelligibility (pages: 1 2 ) 21 Sun May 18, 2008 10:08 am
• Sign language influenced by national languages? 12 Sun May 18, 2008 4:03 am
• Iberian Romance 'languages'. (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 58 Sun May 18, 2008 12:26 am
• Nissa la Bella 11 Sun May 18, 2008 12:11 am
• Is this Italian? (pages: 1 2 ) 16 Sat May 17, 2008 10:28 pm
• SNAILS! 4 Sat May 17, 2008 2:42 pm
• Are Portuguese and Brazilian the same language? (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 10 11 12 13 14 ) 203 Sat May 17, 2008 2:39 pm
• ROMA (Rome) The capital of ROMA (gypsies) 10 Sat May 17, 2008 10:51 am
• What languages were most influential in the middle ages? (pages: 1 2 3 ) 39 Fri May 16, 2008 3:01 pm
• The most useful languages for world travel (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ) 123 Thu May 15, 2008 2:32 pm
• Second language speakers 11 Thu May 15, 2008 1:17 pm
• Which language is more illogical in grammar or pronunciation (pages: 1 2 ) 17 Thu May 15, 2008 12:21 pm
• The Antithesis of English (pages: 1 2 ) 24 Thu May 15, 2008 11:07 am
• The same language family? 4 Thu May 15, 2008 10:49 am
• Will all languages eventually merge with English (pages: 1 2 3 ) 30 Thu May 15, 2008 1:29 am
• Unequal comparisons in Spanish 6 Wed May 14, 2008 9:35 pm
• migration period - linguistic impact 3 Mon May 12, 2008 3:23 pm
• El Papa Razinger resucita el latín. 14 Mon May 12, 2008 12:11 pm
• How many languages can you detect on this video? 13 Mon May 12, 2008 3:14 am
• English in Europe (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 49 Sun May 11, 2008 5:55 am
• Hitler's accent and languages (pages: 1 2 ) 18 Sun May 11, 2008 3:10 am
• language of democracy? (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 ) 81 Sat May 10, 2008 6:55 pm
• The most contrasting Latin languages? (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 ) 82 Sat May 10, 2008 2:29 pm
• rusty r or rolled r or machine gun r, which is more classy? 5 Sat May 10, 2008 12:05 pm
• l'Anglais est "cool"? 8 Fri May 09, 2008 12:57 pm
• Some questions about Polish pronunciation 6 Fri May 09, 2008 10:11 am
• Joyeux Calvaire 2 Thu May 08, 2008 12:04 am
• What is the purpose of grammatical gender?? (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 ) 80 Wed May 07, 2008 4:43 pm
• Monty Python 1 Tue May 06, 2008 7:00 pm
• The Italian Man Who went to Malta 5 Tue May 06, 2008 6:22 pm
• What languages from the middle ages to the present day? 5 Tue May 06, 2008 4:44 pm
• ITALIAN SPOKEN BY GYPSIES - CREOLE ITALIAN 4 Mon May 05, 2008 2:18 pm
• 's (pages: 1 2 ) 15 Mon May 05, 2008 5:13 am
• Studied Foreign Languages in the U.S. (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ) 107 Mon May 05, 2008 3:38 am
• Erik 13 Mon May 05, 2008 3:32 am
• What languages are on your passport. (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ) 68 Sun May 04, 2008 11:00 pm
• influential languages according to engco model 8 Sat May 03, 2008 10:55 am
• Pure english (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 14 15 16 17 18 ) 266 Fri May 02, 2008 8:21 pm
• I'm the Chief-in-charge 6 Fri May 02, 2008 7:32 am
• Languages in the EU (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 20 21 22 23 24 ) 353 Fri May 02, 2008 4:44 am
• Mein Deutsch (pages: 1 2 ) 23 Thu May 01, 2008 3:18 pm
• Are the Chinese languages at all different when written? (pages: 1 2 ) 18 Thu May 01, 2008 1:56 pm
• Germanic elements in Italian and French, arabic in Spanish (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ) 71 Thu May 01, 2008 9:26 am
• English spoken EVERYWHERE (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ) 139 Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:25 pm
• Power Tutorials Skype English Online 0 Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:01 am
• This Chinese Name 6 Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:11 pm
• Past Tense in American and British English 10 Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:33 am
• Which language has the SIMPLEST numerals? 10 Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:34 am
• la suerte de la fea ... 7 Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:45 pm
• Models for Multilinguals (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 46 Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:01 am
• Accent and Meaning 1 Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:17 am
• My sentiments exactly 1 Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:18 am
• Appropriate Language Choices for Career/Grad School (pages: 1 2 ) 28 Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:22 am
• The Longest German Thread Ever (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 56 Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:14 pm
• Why Chinese Is So Damn Hard (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 58 Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:34 am
• Les amis de la vérité (pages: 1 2 ) 17 Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:17 pm
• Universities around the World (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ) 60 Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:38 pm
• Spanish sounds 5 Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:11 pm
• Can you understand what he's saying? 8 Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:35 am
• Fluent in Esperanto? 6 Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:19 am
• yelling 4 Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:24 am
• Help me write something romantic and sexy in French (pages: 1 2 ) 23 Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:24 am
• La teutona tetona. 6 Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:42 am
• Haitian Creole/French mutually intelligible? 3 Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:12 am
• She is pregnant. 14 Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:03 pm
• Most useful languages of Internet (pages: 1 2 ) 18 Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:16 pm
• Different Words for the Same Thing 9 Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:09 am
• foreign speakers myth DEBUNKED! (pages: 1 2 3 ) 36 Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:29 am
• El Papa habla español en su visita a EEUU (pages: 1 2 ) 27 Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:24 am
• Rap lento 1 Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:24 am
• Horrible Person Teaching Spanish 13 Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:12 am
• Spanish Spelling (interesting text) (pages: 1 2 3 ) 39 Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:02 pm
• spanish re-? 3 Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:18 pm
• TICO(costarican) SPANISH 2 Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:19 am
• One semester of Spanish 6 Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:28 pm
• Romance Languages Mutual Intelligibilty (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 ) 75 Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:35 pm
• What are the reasons adults go to classes rather tna selfstu 11 Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:02 am
• language boundaries 5 Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:00 pm
• What does this mean in Spanish 4 Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:08 pm
• Latvian language 4 Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:04 am
• intergermanic, interslavic (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 48 Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:24 pm
• Analytic vs. Synthetic? (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 48 Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:00 pm
• 2 languages: what's more confusing? 12 Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:48 am
• Pro-drop Languages (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ) 66 Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:41 am
• Easiest language to learn (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 58 Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:58 am
• 8 year-old Wendy Vo speaks 11 languages fluently (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 ) 82 Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:13 pm
• Oisiveté & éternité 1 Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:54 am
• Traduction 0 Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:00 am
• Tyrannie de la liberté 6 Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:09 am
• Cleopatra (pages: 1 2 ) 23 Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:01 pm
• Go Left! Turn left! 9 Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:10 am
• do you understand this rap or it goes too quickly to get it? 5 Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:02 pm
• flash cards, vocabulary review--does it help? 2 Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:39 pm
• Learning two languages at the same time (pages: 1 2 ) 20 Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:27 pm
• Lawyer/Polyglot/Fifty plus languages (pages: 1 2 ) 28 Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:42 pm
• World languages (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 11 12 13 14 15 ) 215 Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:28 pm
• What Language is this? 14 Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:54 am
• Diane de Beausacq 3 Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:55 pm
• What Language Seems Almost TOO Difficult to Learn? (pages: 1 2 3 ) 42 Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:21 pm
• two wives 6 Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:08 pm
• Differences between Russian and English mentality... (pages: 1 2 ) 22 Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:29 pm
• FASTEST Growing Languages? 4 Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:24 pm
• Thirty Seconds to Identify Afrikaans and Dutch (spoiler) 2 Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:55 am
• Russian 4 Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:59 am
• Russian language 0 Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:29 pm
• What Languge best represents Western Europe? (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ) 98 Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:17 pm
• Ukrainian Question 5 Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:59 pm
• Judging Multilinguals Fairly (pages: 1 2 ) 25 Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:56 am
• Frases de famosos 7 Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:46 pm
• Change of Heart? 13 Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:24 am
• Yves Cortez (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 15 16 17 18 19 ) 280 Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:13 pm
• Think German is Scary, kids? Take a look at Swahili! (pages: 1 2 3 ) 31 Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:57 am
• Le pire n'est jamais certain 5 Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:45 pm
• moving to poland, which language to learn? 10 Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:55 pm
• A letter in Russian. (pages: 1 2 ) 19 Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:27 am
• El interés por el mandarín se dispara en Occidente. 2 Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:57 am
• Losing/Changing your accent (pages: 1 2 3 ) 33 Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:32 pm
• Norwegian 13 Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:38 am
• Effectiveness of music in language learning 7 Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:30 pm
• Scandinavian languages 7 Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:15 pm
• Mutual intelligibility between Polish and Russian 5 Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:24 pm
• Spanish Question (simple) (pages: 1 2 ) 20 Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:48 am
• Por qué hay menos disléxicos en China. 9 Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:39 am
• what is the attraction of anglicism? (pages: 1 2 ) 23 Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:12 pm
• Question @ GREG sur 'aqua' - 'aigue' - 'ewe' - 'eau' 2 Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:59 pm
• Italian in Argentina (pages: 1 2 3 ) 31 Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:22 pm
• Demystifying the Sounds of English, German, and Spanish (pages: 1 2 3 ) 32 Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:27 pm
• R con R...Corren los Carros 10 Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:42 pm
• Video on Shadowing 7 Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:55 am
• Urgent help needed with Romanian! Any native speakers? 3 Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:19 pm
• My first recordings 3 Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:32 am
• Is it Russian most ''softest'' Slavic language? 13 Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:54 pm
• translation needed 1 Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:54 am
• gaining grammatical complexities (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 ) 82 Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:36 pm
• multilingualism over the top 5 Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:35 pm
• How To Pronounce Borrowed Words in Mexican Spanish 2 Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:24 pm
• Tipo/Clase, plurals, and politeness 2 Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:39 pm
• Arabic, Sanskrit, Chinese and a little of Jasper's advice 3 Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:56 pm
• <guérir> après <guerre>, <guêpe> et <bl (pages: 1 2 ) 22 Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:53 pm
• Share your personal experiences with mutual intelligibility 13 Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:41 pm
• Benefits of learning 'Old' languages 3 Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:48 pm
• Tibetan language 5 Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:11 pm
• Mexico's colloquial wordages of foreign influence? 4 Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:28 am
• Uyghur 3 Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:48 am
• Yiddish language 9 Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:28 pm
• Indian/Arabian literature 2 Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:42 am
• long breaks 2 Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:33 am
• La médico, la médica, La doctora 9 Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:32 am
• Arabic is an important tool for research on acient World (pages: 1 2 ) 18 Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:30 pm
• Another on South Slavic languages (pages: 1 2 ) 24 Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:53 pm
• -ís 1 Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:48 am
• Which language has the LARGEST vocabulary? (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ) 71 Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:37 pm
• Scots language 3 Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:53 am
• Code Switching (pages: 1 2 ) 26 Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:35 am
• Is it worth me continuing my Spanish studies...?! (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ) 65 Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:32 am
• French & Italian...! How many years...? (pages: 1 2 3 ) 41 Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:38 am
• What does WWA mean in Polish? 1 Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:14 pm
• Aprender Espanol / Ensenar Ingles 3 Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:57 pm
• 3 Kinds of Germans (pages: 1 2 3 ) 30 Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:36 am
• Border Languages 13 Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:18 am
• In Northern Africa... 2 Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:13 am
• Testing mutual intelligibility 8 Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:53 pm
• What is Language Immersion? 4 Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:55 am
• Percentage of Latin in Italian 4 Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:49 pm
• Sticky 4 Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:53 pm
• Biting The Wax Tadpole 6 Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:32 am
• What does the following Spanish mean? 12 Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:01 am
• Helado/Guineo Ron y pasas? 10 Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:53 am
• The Name "PICASSO" (pages: 1 2 ) 25 Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:24 pm
• What Languages Are You Currently Studying? (pages: 1 2 3 ) 40 Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:11 pm
• Dare we ask? 7 Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:55 pm
• spanish intervocalic b,v 13 Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:47 pm
• 20th Century Language (pages: 1 2 3 ) 43 Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:49 pm
• An interesting assessment 10 Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:37 pm
• language of 20th century? (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 ) 79 Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:03 pm
• What is this obscure language? 9 Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:29 pm
• Anthony Burghess' Clockwork Orange; 2 Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:15 pm
• French question 6 Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:32 am
• Another Language Quiz: No sounds this time 4 Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:02 pm
• Your Questions about Lexical Similarities Answered. (pages: 1 2 ) 17 Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:18 pm
• How Many Languages Can You Identify by Sound? Quiz 13 Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:40 am
• How Much Could You Learn in Six Weeks? (pages: 1 2 ) 17 Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:24 am
• language everyone wants to know but not learn (pages: 1 2 ) 29 Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:02 am
• Which kind of Italian dialect is the most beautiful one? (pages: 1 2 ) 28 Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:14 pm
• Ultimate hurdle 7 Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:41 am
• In Praise of Antimoon 4 Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:04 am
• rudeness in languages 5 Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:21 am
• por que? (pages: 1 2 3 ) 36 Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:52 pm
• Differences of vocabulary learning (pages: 1 2 ) 26 Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:59 am
• Fifteen or Fifty? (pages: 1 2 ) 22 Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:44 am
• Polyglot Education Ideas (pages: 1 2 3 ) 38 Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:27 am
• What does this German phrase mean? 9 Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:09 am
• trop bon trop con 5 Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:09 pm
• Are You Educated Enough? (pages: 1 2 ) 29 Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:29 am
• Secret code in the NBA 8 Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:14 pm
• Frisian 11 Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:58 am
• Jokes: Is it a good way of learning a language? 4 Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:22 pm
• Listening-Reading Method 3 Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:32 pm
• Reading drama, radio plays, and screenplays as input 3 Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:05 pm
• illogicality and languages (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 56 Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:31 pm
• spanish translations 5 Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:35 am
• Traduction d'une locution adjectivale antiphrastique 8 Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:12 pm
• Polish 5 Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:45 pm
• Dutch orthography (pages: 1 2 ) 21 Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:47 am
• Brazilian portuguese II 10 Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:26 am
• Which to Learn Canadian ou European French (pages: 1 2 ) 28 Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:08 am
• Brazilian Portuguese 13 Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:22 pm
• There is not a second World language (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ) 74 Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:33 pm
• The Sun still Shines/Die Sonne scheint noch (pages: 1 2 ) 19 Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:26 pm
• Is it possible to forget your native language? (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 45 Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:17 am
• What is the oldest manuscript writen in a Romance language? 9 Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:28 pm
• Want to learn Mexican Spanish 3 Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:55 am
• slavic/romance/german (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 51 Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:55 pm
• The most studied World languages (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 51 Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:39 pm
• Tico Spanish? 7 Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:06 pm
• Une duchesse dans le doute... 14 Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:15 pm
• vieux loup de mer (marin expérimenté) 14 Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:03 pm
• de pied en cap (pages: 1 2 3 ) 31 Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:05 am
• Moved: English - overly complicated? 5 Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:47 pm
• Portuguese - French: Spoken Intelligibility (pages: 1 2 3 ) 30 Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:26 am
• Proficiency Tests 6 Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:39 pm
• swiss german - separate language (pages: 1 2 3 ) 38 Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:31 pm
• Turkic languages - inteligibility 3 Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:43 am
• Native English speakers will always be considered stupid! (pages: 1 2 3 ) 32 Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:51 pm
• ¿Hablas Idela Nol? - Nuevo lenguaje de comunicación 3 Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:54 pm
• Last native speaker of Eyak, once spoken in Alaska, dies 14 Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:39 pm
• Chinese characters and Egyptian hieroglyphs (pages: 1 2 3 4 5 ) 61 Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:02 am
• In what languages has the song "BÉSAME MUCHO" been (pages: 1 2 ) 23 Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:01 pm
• Diplomatic jobs 2 Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:27 pm
• Regional Accents in French (pages: 1 2 ) 23 Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:55 am
• The Dons of Spain 2 Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:35 pm
• Could you translate this to English? (pages: 1 2 ) 17 Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:39 pm
• Estan pronunciadas las mismas? (pages: 1 2 ) 27 Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:21 pm
• Oyendo a un hombre facil ... 5 Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:23 pm
• what is a "working knowledge" of a language? 4 Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:02 pm
• Mamma mia! Italian in month 2 Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:19 am
• Good-bye in Spanish (pages: 1 2 3 4 ) 45 Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:59 pm
• Northern Germanic languages 10 Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:53 am
• Lithuanian language in the eyes of the foreigners (pages: 1 2 3 ) 38 Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:38 pm
• What photographers in your language say to get you to smile 3 Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:35 pm
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